Montuhotep Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 Simple question as above - is there any benefit for a Tzeentch marked squad to have an Icon of Flame? Half of me says yes, the other half looks at it a little askance and figures not worth the points. And so? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesI Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 The majority opinion, at least last time I looked, was people thought it wasn't worth the points. Personally, I give it to all my units... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarshalHelva Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 I think its too expensive. i might consider taking it for 5 points like a warpflame gargoyle but at 15 points its just ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rune Priest Ridcully Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 At 15pts, it is the latest kick in the balls for us from Phill kelly, after he already took a jackhammer to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lieutenant Steel Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 Does anyone know how much damage the Icon of Flame damage would do to GEq? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Ambroz Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 Each unit with soul blaze only does one burn token so in essece you're paying 15 points for one or two extra shots... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Excessus Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 It's calculated at around a boltershot of damage... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rune Priest Ridcully Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 I am hoping they Faq it so it's usefull, like additionally to soul blaze, all units with the Mark of Tzeenthc shooting and casting powers on the affected unit get +1BS or it allowed them to reroll to wound, or gave all their weapons an -1AP modifier (making thousand son bolter AP2 with it) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarshalHelva Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 That's not going to happen. soul blaze does exactly what the design team wanted it to do. If it was each wound from a soul blaze weapon adds a token then it could be useful but limited to one token its just pitifully ineffectual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shuggnuggath Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 In my opinion the answer is NO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Furyou Miko Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 Basically, the Soul Blaze token gives one guy in the squad a pet guardsman. *shrugs* Not really worth it. Would be a fun way to model it though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Shrimp Eyes Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 Make a call on the opponent you are facing. Iv used it against horde armies to great effect, but found it not really worth the points against Marines etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hiro_Protagonist Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 I for one, like the banner. Not for the Soul Blaze, per se, but for the +1 combat res. I find my T-sons are great at ties, thanks to the 4++. That banner pushes it to a win. Mandatory for every unit...no, but it is nice to have sometimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happybounce Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 Everyone heavily skews the numbers to fudge the math. The icon is fine and it's only 10pts for the sould blaze since just an icon in general is worth 5pts. I run it on all my squads (3 of them normally) and it usually kills about 1-4 marines and occasionally something interesting. For a net investment of 30pts for soul blaze that's not bad. And the +1 to resolution has been pivotal more then once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Furyou Miko Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 I don't skew the numbers to fudge the math. I just have very little luck with soul blaze. :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KNEPH Posted March 29, 2013 Share Posted March 29, 2013 I for one, like the banner. Not for the Soul Blaze, per se, but for the +1 combat res. I find my T-sons are great at ties, thanks to the 4++. That banner pushes it to a win. Mandatory for every unit...no, but it is nice to have sometimes. This is the main reason I run them myself. TSons forcing Ld tests every turn, simply because nobody is doing anything to anyone. The occasional failed combat lets my TSons push units into double-tap range and be a nuisance on an objective. If the TSons fail the combat they try again next turn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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