outrider Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 Thought it might be a good idea to seek a second opinion before I start rebuilding my army. Apothecary looses his power fist in favour of narthecium. Can he, as "any terminator", still replace all of his weapons, at this point storm bolter, with hammer and shield? I'm asking because the first entry suggests the nartchecium is suppose to replace a weapon but following my logic would defeat this. Your thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elphilo Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 No, because he is no longer a Deathwing Terminator, he is a Deathwing Apothecary. So he doesn't have access to the list of upgrades that Deathwing Terminators get. And before you say what if I do the weapon upgrade before the Apothecary upgrade, you can't. Because you must replace your power fist with a narthecium. And if you don't have a power fist you can't replace it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outrider Posted January 31, 2013 Author Share Posted January 31, 2013 Selective reading, missed the "Deathwing Apothecary" bit. Clear as water now, although a bit disappointing as I don't like storm bolters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Sheol Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 Storm bolter with Venegeful Strike is a good weapon... Disappointed too by the looss of the PF but the role of the Apotechary is to Keep the DW CS and the joined IC alive and not to smash enemies in HtH... That role is covered really good by the DW Champion... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CovertToaster Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 You can potentially do the "take cyclone missile launcher" option and still take the apothecary upgrade but watch out as any rules lawyers you play will complain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outrider Posted January 31, 2013 Author Share Posted January 31, 2013 Unfortunately you can't take anything else. As elphilo rightfuly pointed out, apothecary is no longer a "Deathwing Terminator" period. The pity is that he doesn't have a power sword option so he can make a visible contribution to close combat oriented squads. By comparison Ravenwing apothecary looses a pistol not a corvus hammer, although there is only 3 of them. I guess the way the banners work now changes the role of Command Squads from first line super unit to more of a support role. They can influence everyone arround them, so can't be too strong which in my mind explains weaker DW apothecary and 3 bike RW command squad. Still doesn't make me feel any better :") Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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