Dono1979 Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 Sooo, the Crusade Legion list gives you access to the Lords of War in a regular game of 30k, with the restriction that the Slot cannot go over 25%. It also mentions that a Crusade Legion list can take various Super Heavies, in those that are mentioned are Titans. Now the issue is that the Titans are listed under the Mechanicum entries not the Marines. So does this mean that the only way you can access a Titan in a non Apoc game is by taking a Mechanicum ally contingent and bringing it in as a Lord of War through the allies FOC? No where can I see in the book saying that the Lord of War choice bypasses the normal requirements for the choice to be taken from your own list, the Titans are clearly not in the Marines list, they are in the Mechanicum. There is an ally matrix, plus there is a HQ choice and a Troop choice for the Mechanicum allowing you to field a 'legal' ally contingent. Fluff wise it makes perfect sense, rarely would the Titans venture away on their own without Skitari or other Mechanicus ground support. What are peoples thoughts? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/270584-lords-of-war-allies-and-the-ad-mech/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nova_Dew Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 It may be in the Mechanicum section but it's in the Lords of War section of their list so I think that's all that matters and earlier in the book it lists titans as an eligible option for a Legion Army so it doesn't matter who's list it's in but whether or not its listed as eligible or not Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/270584-lords-of-war-allies-and-the-ad-mech/#findComment-3295918 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darog Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 p. 184 The Lords of War choices eligible for the Crusade Space Marine Legion list found in this book are as follows: An Imperial Super-heavy Tank or Detachment ( 1-3 Super-heavy Tanks or Super-heavy Walkers of up to 3 Srrucrure Points each). A single Titan (note this will only be available in latger games owing to points restrictions). A single Imperial Super-heavy Flyer (such as a Thunderhawk Gunship). A squadron of 1-3 Imperial Navy Flyers (see Imperial Annour Aeronautica for options). 1-3 Ordo Reductor War Engines. The Primarch of the Legion used as the force's Primary Detachment. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/270584-lords-of-war-allies-and-the-ad-mech/#findComment-3296084 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nehekhare Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 A single Titan (note this will only be available in latger games owing to points restrictions). This pretty much makes it clear that the Legion list is restricted to their own superheavies (Thunderhawks, Fellblades and Typhons) and Primarchs for Lord of War choices in non-apocalpyse battles, doesn't it? Only a Mechanicum primary detachment would be elegible to field Titans from their list using the HH FOC, while in Apocalypse no such restrictions exist and everything goes anyway... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/270584-lords-of-war-allies-and-the-ad-mech/#findComment-3296213 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greyshift Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 That's not how I read it, from the entry posted above I'd say it allows a space marine legion to field any imperial super heavy or any titan etc as long as they can afford it... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/270584-lords-of-war-allies-and-the-ad-mech/#findComment-3296237 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nova_Dew Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 I for one am with Greyshift on this one at no point does it say that you can only pick from whats in this book only since we know they will be releasing additions to the army lists with each book Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/270584-lords-of-war-allies-and-the-ad-mech/#findComment-3296241 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hisdudeness Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 I'm not understanding what the issue is here. When we build an army we use the units in the armies list. Titians are not included in the Legion Crusade list. Based on what is being said, we can choose Magos Reductor Decima as a HQ for our marine legion. The section being quoted is in the "Age of Darkness Battles" section that describes the use of all 30k lists. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/270584-lords-of-war-allies-and-the-ad-mech/#findComment-3296275 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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