minionboy Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 So I was chatting with my Dark Angels playing friend, and we noticed something gross... In the Imperial Armor 6th edition vehicle rules update, they gave the Mortis Dreadnought the Interceptor/Skyfire rules that the Contemptor Mortis also has. Check it out for yourself Mortis Rules: http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Downloads/Product/PDF/s/Smupdate.pdf 6th ed update: http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Downloads/Product/PDF/v/vehicle6thupdates.pdf So all that adds up to 125 points for a skyfire/interceptor rifleman dread! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EPK Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 That's fairly well known around here and lists often included them before the new codex dropped. Many of us were hoping the Mortis with at least sky fire would make it into the codex. No luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother_Angelus Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 Combine with a pair of Khres AC and it can deal with anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minionboy Posted February 1, 2013 Author Share Posted February 1, 2013 That's fairly well known around here and lists often included them before the new codex dropped. Many of us were hoping the Mortis with at least sky fire would make it into the codex. No luck. Ah, didn't know that, still pretty awesome though! Combine with a pair of Khres AC and it can deal with anything. I think you're thinking of the Contemptor Mortis, I'm talking about the good ol' fashioned regular Mortis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EPK Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 That's fairly well known around here and lists often included them before the new codex dropped. Many of us were hoping the Mortis with at least sky fire would make it into the codex. No luck. Ah, didn't know that, still pretty awesome though! Can't argue with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger9gamer Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 can you use one in a regular list? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Sheol Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 FW rules are meant to be used without problems with GW codices. The only thong is that you have to inform your opponent that you are using FW manuals. It is a good thing to show the opponent the manual itself so he can see the entry. Mortis dread is a good choice for a DA army and it is DA only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_f Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 Well, its grossly underpriced and thats the reason I dont use it.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndigoJack Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 I use it because we still don't have good AA. Unfortunately, the nephilim is too inefficient and too expensive to be used as for AA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elphilo Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 I use it because we still don't have good AA. Unfortunately, the nephilim is too inefficient and too expensive to be used as for AA. Agreed. I'm actually contemplating getting a Contemptor Mortis because for the same points of a Jetfighter I can have 2 Heavy 6 assault cannons on that dude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facmanpob Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 I use it because we still don't have good AA. Unfortunately, the nephilim is too inefficient and too expensive to be used as for AA. Agreed. I'm actually contemplating getting a Contemptor Mortis because for the same points of a Jetfighter I can have 2 Heavy 6 assault cannons on that dude. I want one simply because it looks awesome.....the fact that the Comptemptor Mortis rocks on the table is just an added bonus :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger9gamer Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 i've been thinking about this guy, but can't decide if i should take him... what do you guys thing is better: devastator squad (x3 missle launchers w/ flakk, one lascannon)-165pts -or- mortis dreadnaught (x2 missile launchers)-105pts whirlwhind-65pts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngelVeto Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 Well whirlwinds are great against blob armies, but for me personally I don't field them that often against MeQ lists. For those I run dual autocannon mortis, for 125 points. It's a steal getting 4 S7AP4 shots that are twin linked and have skyfire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agerjag Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 I just want to reiterate what others have already implied. Make sure you get your opponents permission to use things from IA. If both players use them it balances out fine, but in my personal opinion there are alot of VERY undercosted options that more or less invalidate options in your codex (they do that alot with their version of "internal balance" anyway, but thats not the point). Most tournaments do not allow for IA, though some do. If your playing against someone using just a normal codex it is kinda cheesy to take these things. It would be best if your gaming group in general just decided if they were in or not so people can start building accordingly. My group only uses IA or Forgeworld models in Apocalypse (gives us more reasons to play it). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger9gamer Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 Yes, yes, I know this >.> people are generally okay with it at my store. I'm just asking wether or not it would be a good idea to replace something in my army for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Hitchcock Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 I often use a twin lascannon mortis... and even if not cheap (155 pts) it's really amazing. If you have only one flyer you can be sure that it will die immediately when enter from the reserve. The mortis it's even small (like all dreads) so it's very simple to give him cover Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Hitchcock Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 Double post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cactus Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 I use both the twin-linked lascannon mortis and the contemptor mortis with kheres and cyclone. Flyers haven't really taken off where I play so I can't comment on their AA uses but the lascannon mortis makes a reliable tank hunter who can, as Jack said, find cover easily. The contemptor mortis tends to shred anything it fires at and it's a great looking model. I've never seen the appeal of missile launchers on dreadnoughts; 105 points feels like a lot to pay for 2 missile launcher shots and nothing else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HJL Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 am i missing something ? i cant see anything granting mortis dreads AA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elphilo Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 It's in one of the updates Forgeworld did, then took off their site. It stated that if a Mortis Dread didn't move in the movement phase it got Skyfire and Interceptor. It is also in the 2nd link of the OP. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HJL Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 wow. at 115 pts even my heavy bolter mortis is now good! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pueriexdeus Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 I just want to reiterate what others have already implied. Make sure you get your opponents permission to use things from IA. If both players use them it balances out fine, but in my personal opinion there are alot of VERY undercosted options that more or less invalidate options in your codex (they do that alot with their version of "internal balance" anyway, but thats not the point). Most tournaments do not allow for IA, though some do. If your playing against someone using just a normal codex it is kinda cheesy to take these things. It would be best if your gaming group in general just decided if they were in or not so people can start building accordingly. My group only uses IA or Forgeworld models in Apocalypse (gives us more reasons to play it). So your saying that taking one or two Gunfighter Dreads as AA to use against a player with two or three flyers is cheesy because the flyers are in a codex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronin_eX Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 Already planning on picking up a Contemptor Mortis on my next big purchase (my friend just got a Helldrake). I may have to grab a normal rifle-mortis as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Captain Lucian Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 Im grabbin a FW DA ven dread (count as mortis) and a contemptor mortis.. my friend likes his vendettas and valks. The contemptor will ofc be in pre heresy colours :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger9gamer Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 Sorry to necro this thread, but I have to ask... is the FW dread only for the last codex, or for this one too? I have some arse-hats on Dakka-Dakka saying that it isn't allowed because of last edition rules/last codex... (I really have to delete my account there) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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