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Oh, I wasn't implying you'd said so, Kol, just mentioning.

 

Part of the beauty of the Heresy series is that you see more "sides" (as in, units) of a Legion. I'm not even talking about the ones that are granted new models, just seeing those NL tanks cranks up the awesomes in the geek-gland. It's just that Legions/Chapters/Warbands are so well-know for one particular talent that you rarely get shown how they function as a whole army.

Oh. Hehehe:sweat:

 

Agreed. The Legions weren't specialized. They just had very famous signatures and these signatures affected how the entirety functioned, but even the Death Guard and World Eaters carried armored regiments. I just can't wait do see what the Night Lords' armor is like.

Yeah, if Forgeowrld doesn't do it, I'll have to copyright it and sell it to them........ I think 30,000 points in Heresy models and three Warhounds and a Reaver should suffice..... or a position as the first US-based writer until I can move over there. cool.png

Do the Iron Hands have a cog symbol? I thought their symbol was a straight up fist. Although there is a picture from the trailer with a cog symbol, but it has no sword in it.

 

http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc69/bleachit54/ih3_zps51813b98.png

Do the Iron Hands have a cog symbol? I thought their symbol was a straight up fist. Although there is a picture from the trailer with a cog symbol, but it has no sword in it.

 

http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc69/bleachit54/ih3_zps51813b98.png

Iron Hands iconography is full of cogs, specially "empty" cogs like that one. the clan companies' icons are all cogs so far (not all were shown so far, hope the HH books do the trick). See the sculpted shoulder pads from GW, the transfers from FW and lots of cog-like trims on armor in several artwork, including the terminator in the video.

http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Images/Product/DefaultFW/xlarge/iron-hands-trans.jpg

Fair enough. But then, so does the Mechanicum. So it could be a Titan legio.

 

But IIRC, the Morlocks(and apparently Clan Avernii) were the only Iron Hands at Istvaan V. And we have two Iron Hand symbols, one which, according to the map, is about to be swallowed by the Traitors while going after the Emepror's Children. IF memory serves, the Morlocks were right behind Ferrus Manus in his wild charge. So if there is an Iron Hands symbol where we know there should be Morlocks, then would it not be reasonable to conclude that the cog-firesword symbol belongs to a different force, at least until we know otherwise?

Maybe. It just seems weird that out of the three Legions who knew of the betrayal before hand, the Iron Hands would have the weakest presence there. Ironically that meant they would have more numbers left over. Maybe its a Skitarii force? After all, aren't the Castellax making an appearance as well?

Fair enough. But then, so does the Mechanicum. So it could be a Titan legio.

But IIRC, the Morlocks(and apparently Clan Avernii) were the only Iron Hands at Istvaan V. And we have two Iron Hand symbols, one which, according to the map, is about to be swallowed by the Traitors while going after the Emepror's Children. IF memory serves, the Morlocks were right behind Ferrus Manus in his wild charge. So if there is an Iron Hands symbol where we know there should be Morlocks, then would it not be reasonable to conclude that the cog-firesword symbol belongs to a different force, at least until we know otherwise?

Yeah, but one of the main points in that battle is that Ferrus die on that battle, maybe they pointed his position at the beginning of the assault as well.

And if only the Morlocks are there, all the artwork doesn't make sense, Morlocks a terminator-only force, so no tanks and whatnot from IH would be there. And that's not really true: what we know is that ALL Morlocks were there, and got wiped out.

Uriel, I don't think it's a clan logo, since I see no reason to show them apart from the rest of the IH force, since all IH forces are clans msn-wink.gif

The IH presence seems massive, with 2 whole BIG icons there compared to the other icons displayed.

Another thing is that IH have the stronger ties with the Mechanicum, so maybe the AdMech units that fight attached to the IHs are considered something different, justifying such mixed logo.

Just found something.

 

Fulgrim, page 456

 

Ten companies of Morlocks were berthed throughout the Ferrum, the deadliest and most experienced warriors of the Legion, and Balhaan knew that whatever force was arrayed against the Terminators, it could not survive their wrath. The Iron Hands would undertake the initial assaults with the veterans of their Legion, and Balhaan felt that it was appropriate that the Legion's best warriors should be first into battle. Led by Gabriel Santar, the Morlocks hungered to confront the Emperor's Children and make them pay for the dishonourable murders done to their number in the Anvilarium of the Fist of Iron.

 

The rest of the 52nd Expedition was following behind the Ferrum, but when they might arrive in-system was unknown, and every second their assault was delayed gave the traitors more time to fortify their positions.

So since after this, the other four Traitor Legions and the rest of the 52nd Expedition were to land as soon as they arrived(after the assault was launched), it would mean that their were more than ten thousand Iron Hands there, just that the Morlocks were the vanguard, which would explain the two IH symbols. And why in The First Heretic, Curze would remark that the Iron Hands, Raven Guard and Salamanders had numerical superiority(before their arrival).

According to the latest update on GW UK about games day, at the forgeworld/heresy stand will be the dude who has "been working hard on a superbly detailed set of heresy-era Night Lords"

 

Kol's Terror Squad is getting close to reality.....

I feel like a giddy school girl who's about to meet Freddy Krueger! Wait, I think I said that wrong.......

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