Incoming Heresy models

[DuskRaider]

And my furnace!

[Kol Saresk]

Do you guys think we should send something to forgeworld asking how they paint the next four legions like how they did it for the first four?

 

 

Yes.

 

And do I hear anything for suicide by buzzsaw?

[Danny Cyanide]

Here is what they gave me for Word Bearer red:

 

WORD BEARERS

 

1. THE MODELS WERE UNDERCOATED WITH GW BLACK SPRAY

 

2. THE MODELS WERE DRY BRUSHED WITH RUB AND BUFF PEWTER, BRINGING THE BLACK UNDERCOAT UPTO A SILVER COLOUR.

 

3. AIRBRUSH ONE COAT OF CARRABOURG CRIMSON

 

4. AIRBRUSH 3 THINNED COATS OF TAMIYA CLEAR RED

 

5. AIRBRUSH 1 COAT OF CARRABOURG  CRIMSON

 

6. SILVER – BASECOAT WITH LEADBELCHER

 

7. WASH WITH NULN OIL

 

8. HIGHLIGHT WITH LEADBELCHER IN STRIKING MOTIONS TO CREATED CHIPPED AND WEATHER APPEARANCE

 

9. HIGHLIGHT WITH IRONBREAKER

 

10. BRASS – BASECOAT WITH RUNELORD BRASS

 

11. WASH WITH AGRAX EARTHSHADE

 

12. HIGHLIGHT WITH RUNELORD BRASS IN STRIKING MOTIONS TO CREATE A CHIPPED AND WEATHERED APPEARANCE

 

 

[Russ Brother 92]

sounds pretty good :) think I'll email them for the Iron Hands and NLs schemes :)

[Russ Brother 92]

*Double Post*

[Greyall]

Chainglaives are pretty easy to make. Raptor chainswords and a long haft - done. Or regular chainswords.

 

 

@Kol: To my memory, that's their regular purple. If anything, more corrupted EC's should turn towards pink or carmine.

[Verity]

There's also these that someone posted at some point (apologies if it was someone on this forum, my memory is incredibly shoddy) http://www.anvilindustry.co.uk/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=144.

 

They aren't too bad if you ask me.

 

EDIT: Also, just out of interest - when it became known, was anyone else a bit surprised about the Chainglaive being a universal Night Lord thing? I had previously been under the impression that it was sort of unique-ish to Sevatar. Dunno if I missed something there?

 

Not too fussed about it not being unique, mind you - it's a ridiculously cool weapon.

[Greyall]

It's not the first chainglaive we hear about, I think Angron used one in one of the first three books of the HH - or was it a regular glaive?

 

It's uncommon, but not original enough to be that unique, so no surprises there for me.

[DuskRaider]

It does kind of bother me that it's no longer a unique weapon at this point. They did the same with the Power Scythe. In the old fluff, it was a weapon personally given to Death Guard Astartes for their acts of valor and bravery in the face of adversity and overwhelming odds. Now it seems that a Discount Power Scythe Outlet was opened on Barbarus. Buy one Power Scythe, get one free! 50% off all Power Scythes! No money down, interest free!

[Balthamal]

It does kind of bother me that it's no longer a unique weapon at this point. They did the same with the Power Scythe. In the old fluff, it was a weapon personally given to Death Guard Astartes for their acts of valor and bravery in the face of adversity and overwhelming odds. Now it seems that a Discount Power Scythe Outlet was opened on Barbarus. Buy one Power Scythe, get one free! 50% off all Power Scythes! No money down, interest free!

 

I get your point but at the moment the only ones we have stated wielding them are Mort, the Deathshroud and Typhon. I think FW have gone down the route of "give them the option because people are going to do it with or without it".

 

I did love the idea of Sevatar being the only one badass enough to have a chainspear, not even a powerspear, regular chain but it's so cool that I'd have given it to several of my characters no matter what. As it stands my 15 Night Raptors will get the Anvil version, the consuls/Praetor will get the converted version

[Daddywarcrimes]

Here is what they gave me for Word Bearer red:

 

WORD BEARERS

 

1. THE MODELS WERE UNDERCOATED WITH GW BLACK SPRAY

 

2. THE MODELS WERE DRY BRUSHED WITH RUB AND BUFF PEWTER, BRINGING THE BLACK UNDERCOAT UPTO A SILVER COLOUR.

 

3. AIRBRUSH ONE COAT OF CARRABOURG CRIMSON

 

4. AIRBRUSH 3 THINNED COATS OF TAMIYA CLEAR RED

 

5. AIRBRUSH 1 COAT OF CARRABOURG  CRIMSON

 

6. SILVER – BASECOAT WITH LEADBELCHER

 

7. WASH WITH NULN OIL

 

8. HIGHLIGHT WITH LEADBELCHER IN STRIKING MOTIONS TO CREATED CHIPPED AND WEATHER APPEARANCE

 

9. HIGHLIGHT WITH IRONBREAKER

 

10. BRASS – BASECOAT WITH RUNELORD BRASS

 

11. WASH WITH AGRAX EARTHSHADE

 

12. HIGHLIGHT WITH RUNELORD BRASS IN STRIKING MOTIONS TO CREATE A CHIPPED AND WEATHERED APPEARANCE

 

 

 

Interesting mix, especially the mention that they used paints from two other companies.

[DuskRaider]

Yeah, it gives people options and that is nice. Heck, my Praetor is armed with a Power Scythe (that I sometimes use as a Paragon Blade), but he's a Praetor. Seems kind of weird having Squad Sergeant Jeff run around with what I see as a symbol of personal favor from the Primarch, and also a symbol of authority or position in the Legion. I guess in the same breath, people can limit themselves to stick closer to the background.

[Balthamal]

Yeah, it gives people options and that is nice. Heck, my Praetor is armed with a Power Scythe (that I sometimes use as a Paragon Blade), but he's a Praetor. Seems kind of weird having Squad Sergeant Jeff run around with what I see as a symbol of personal favor from the Primarch, and also a symbol of authority or position in the Legion. I guess in the same breath, people can limit themselves to stick closer to the background.

 

Spot on. The way i'm differentiating is by giving regular marines the rough and ready ones whilst the Praetor/Sevatar gets the full treatment. Too bad it's going to be an eternity before he gets a model :(

[Kol Saresk]

It does kind of bother me that it's no longer a unique weapon at this point. They did the same with the Power Scythe. In the old fluff, it was a weapon personally given to Death Guard Astartes for their acts of valor and bravery in the face of adversity and overwhelming odds. Now it seems that a Discount Power Scythe Outlet was opened on Barbarus. Buy one Power Scythe, get one free! 50% off all Power Scythes! No money down, interest free!

I get your point but at the moment the only ones we have stated wielding them are Mort, the Deathshroud and Typhon. I think FW have gone down the route of "give them the option because people are going to do it with or without it".

I did love the idea of Sevatar being the only one badass enough to have a chainspear, not even a powerspear, regular chain but it's so cool that I'd have given it to several of my characters no matter what. As it stands my 15 Night Raptors will get the Anvil version, the consuls/Praetor will get the converted version

Yeah, it gives people options and that is nice. Heck, my Praetor is armed with a Power Scythe (that I sometimes use as a Paragon Blade), but he's a Praetor. Seems kind of weird having Squad Sergeant Jeff run around with what I see as a symbol of personal favor from the Primarch, and also a symbol of authority or position in the Legion. I guess in the same breath, people can limit themselves to stick closer to the background.

Spot on. The way i'm differentiating is by giving regular marines the rough and ready ones whilst the Praetor/Sevatar gets the full treatment. Too bad it's going to be an eternity before he gets a model

Personally, I'm going after that war-glaive that was in the pic of the terror squad. Come to daddy baby!

[depthcharge12]

I was just thinking that the two handed chainsword in the upgrade kits would prolly work well too since the Sanguinary gaurd have glaives, which are just big swords for them, so the heavy chainsword might work.

 

 

I want some diversity though, maybe a couple of the 2 handed chainswords (hard to get in large groups) and a few of the halberd-y ones

[Kol Saresk]

Could always make a chainaxe on a stick, a proper spear, a halberd... Basically the existence of a war glaive that looks like one of the Terminator Power Axes gives a huge of possibilities on what a Nostraman Chainglaive can look like on the table top.

[Noctus Cornix]

Well, Glaive is a term that can be used for both a sword with a spear-like haft or a massive two-handed blade. It has a great many terms.

 

Personally, I think its rather lame to make the Chainglaive a weapon amongst the Night Lords.

 

1. As far as I am aware, it was to be the personal unique weapon of a character and the idea of it was a homage to Lord of the Night. That's it. Making it a Legion-Wide Weapon feels like a childish attempt to profit off Sevatar's glory for sales.

 

2. Its just not something that strikes me as a Night Lord weapon. Sure Sevatar uses it, but he's a MASTER bladesman that stands on par with legends like Khârn and Sigismund. The type of Glaive he uses (a Chainglaive no less) would be a very complex weapon that requires mastery and finesse to wield it. These are qualities that don't stand out in the Night Lords Legion.

[Greyall]

I think it's rather useful for back-stabbing at flailing-proof distance =p

 

Or killing terrified civilians lying on the ground.

[Excessus]

Do these kakaphoni have apothecary symbols on their shoulder pads?

 

http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/New_Stuff/EMPEROR%27S_CHILDREN_LEGION_KAKOPHONI.html

[Greyall]

Anyone you know who's better suited for practicing Otolaryngology?

 

PS: Sorry...

[Noctus Cornix]

Do these kakaphoni have apothecary symbols on their shoulder pads?

 

http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/New_Stuff/EMPEROR%27S_CHILDREN_LEGION_KAKOPHONI.html

 

Yes they do. It is my assumption that it is there because they give themselves wholly to the machinations of the Apothecarian, their personal little experiments.

[Verity]

Out curiousity noctus, what would you replace the chainglaive with as an alternative, if we assume there has to be an alternative?

 

I legitimately assumed they would've been getting some sort of dagger like weapon, but I suppose Lightning Claws fit that niche quite nicely...Funnily enough, all my friends seem to associate them with Night Lords, even ones who know nothing about Night Lords at all.

[Noctus Cornix]

Honestly, I wouldn't give them any special weapon. Night Lords aren't a Legion that really prides itself on personal combat. They're cowards. They couldn't give a rat's ass about honor and other things that go along with it. Sevatar is an exception to that and he should remain that way.

 

If anything, I would give them a special kind of flamer, a gun or some sort of grenade. Something that helps them strike their enemies from afar without giving them the chance to fight back.

[DuskRaider]

You could probably model Chainglaves with Raptor weapons, as to differentiate between their weapon and Sevatar's. That way he has the actual weapon, while the others just have some really nasty looking blades that use the rules.

[Kol Saresk]

 

 

Do these kakaphoni have apothecary symbols on their shoulder pads?

 

http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/New_Stuff/EMPEROR'S_CHILDREN_LEGION_KAKOPHONI.html

 

Yes they do. It is my assumption that it is there because they give themselves wholly to the machinations of the Apothecarian, their personal little experiments.

 

 

The same symbol also represents Mercury in alchemy, which was considered to have all the ideal properties of metal. So you could say that it is an abstract way of showing that they believe they have reached what they see as the ideal properties of an Emperor's Child, or "perfection".

 

Also, on the note of Sevatar, even he doesn't care about honor. He has no problem joining in on a 1vs1 battle to make it 2vs1. Or breaking the "codes of warfare" or whatever that chivalrous stuff about duels is called. And they may not care about personal combat, but they do believe in having the advantage. In other words, not bringing a combat blade to a power weapon fight.

 

You could probably model Chainglaves with Raptor weapons, as to differentiate between their weapon and Sevatar's. That way he has the actual weapon, while the others just have some really nasty looking blades that use the rules.

We've also seen a variety of different types of glaives too. Heck, in the pic of the Terror Squad, there's a war-glaive that looks like a Termie's power axe. So you could just make "count-as" chainglaives by using a variety of glaive-type weaponry.