Marshal Rohr Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 Agreed. I like the way they set these up, specifically because each trilogy is modular and has a clear focus ie Opening Moves in the first, all out war in the second. The third will be cool because we will hopefully see the heresy in full swing, and black library will have moved out beyond the stage they've been setting up since 2008. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/270656-incoming-heresy-models/page/84/#findComment-3540158 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 Agreed. I like the way they set these up, specifically because each trilogy is modular and has a clear focus ie Opening Moves in the first, all out war in the second. The third will be cool because we will hopefully see the heresy in full swing, and black library will have moved out beyond the stage they've been setting up since 2008. Well, they've been at three years since Prince of Crows an its taken something like two years just to do the Istvaans. So it might or might not motivate BL into speeding things along as far as the Heresy timeline. They might wait for FW to catch up. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/270656-incoming-heresy-models/page/84/#findComment-3540188 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 It takes a year to write a novel, right? We've got Vengeful Spirit coming out, which will move the Warmaster's plot forward. Master of Mankind, which is A D Bs next one, but I don't know if that is a prequel or not. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/270656-incoming-heresy-models/page/84/#findComment-3540199 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 It might move the Warmaster forward, but how? Will it just put him in the third year of the Heresy? Will it put him past Unremembered Empire? Will it be just before? How will it work? Will it advance the Heresy, or just Horus? Prince of Crows advanced the Heresy. Vulkan Lives and Unremembered Empire advanced Vulkan personally. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/270656-incoming-heresy-models/page/84/#findComment-3540205 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 I'd assume it'll be a novel about Horus' next phase against the Imperium, but Im not privy to any concrete knowledge. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/270656-incoming-heresy-models/page/84/#findComment-3540209 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 Fair enough. I was just pointing out that advancing Horus' timeline doesn't necessarily include, or exclude, the overall Heresy. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/270656-incoming-heresy-models/page/84/#findComment-3540221 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuskRaider Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 I mean... I guess we have a possibility of the first eight Legions getting another unit or two, maybe an alternative Rite of War, with those in the third book getting around 3 - 4 Legion units and two Rites of War per Legion, but I don't know. It would be cool, but as it is FW is back logged for a while with units / Legion-specific kits. Sometimes I think they bit off a little more than they could chew. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/270656-incoming-heresy-models/page/84/#findComment-3540229 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 Maybe. But unlike GW, at least FW delivers. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/270656-incoming-heresy-models/page/84/#findComment-3540230 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 If we all keep buying from them, they can expand their infrastructure, hire more help, and hold more product. So they are back logged now but if profits allow, they can buy some new molds, hire another few sculptors, etc and it'll start to move faster. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/270656-incoming-heresy-models/page/84/#findComment-3540813 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 Yep. And maybe, just maybe, as it expands and grows and becomes a more regular product, the prices might lower. Not anything special, drastic or radical mind you, but still, we(or at least I) can hope. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/270656-incoming-heresy-models/page/84/#findComment-3540859 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyromancer Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 Just a small tidbit, but I emailed Forge World asking what the Steel Havocs were, and they told me that they would be included inside of the third book, and that was all they could tell me. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/270656-incoming-heresy-models/page/84/#findComment-3540985 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Brother 92 Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 Just a small tidbit, but I emailed Forge World asking what the Steel Havocs were, and they told me that they would be included inside of the third book, and that was all they could tell me. Very nice brother :) I await with baited breath - especially as I picked up the Stronghold Assault book, which adds in some VERY nice fortifications to defend/beseige :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/270656-incoming-heresy-models/page/84/#findComment-3541057 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 Were the steel havocs from Tallarn? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/270656-incoming-heresy-models/page/84/#findComment-3541060 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xwingt65 Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 Yep. And maybe, just maybe, as it expands and grows and becomes a more regular product, the prices might lower. Not anything special, drastic or radical mind you, but still, we(or at least I) can hope. Uhhhmm.... Will happen the same day the newspapers report of hell freezing over. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/270656-incoming-heresy-models/page/84/#findComment-3541062 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 Yep. And maybe, just maybe, as it expands and grows and becomes a more regular product, the prices might lower. Not anything special, drastic or radical mind you, but still, we(or at least I) can hope. Uhhhmm.... Will happen the same day the newspapers report of hell freezing over. They said that once about Forgeworld keeping those giant Legion Mk sets pass Christmas. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/270656-incoming-heresy-models/page/84/#findComment-3541118 Share on other sites More sharing options...
helterskelter Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 Forgeworld like to keep spreading the love, not just teasing you at the holidays! My wallet keeps whispering sicarian venator at me Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/270656-incoming-heresy-models/page/84/#findComment-3541121 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostMalone Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 Mine keeps saying the same thing brother. Hopefully come the new year it becomes a reality Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/270656-incoming-heresy-models/page/84/#findComment-3541141 Share on other sites More sharing options...
helterskelter Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 To be perfectly honest I keep hoping someone attempts to build a real one now the germans have lascannons. However ill settle for resin autocannons of doooooom Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/270656-incoming-heresy-models/page/84/#findComment-3541146 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyromancer Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 Were the steel havocs from Tallarn? They were Iron Warriors, but other than that we don't really know what they were. There was just a small mention of them in Massacre. pg 41 'The relentless thunder of their advancing Steel Havocs scything down lines of fleeing Imperial linesman'. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/270656-incoming-heresy-models/page/84/#findComment-3541162 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 Must be the prototype havocs mentioned at GD. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/270656-incoming-heresy-models/page/84/#findComment-3541342 Share on other sites More sharing options...
spu00sed Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 I'm thinking heavy weapon terminator squads, who else can advance and still lay down heavy weapon fire? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/270656-incoming-heresy-models/page/84/#findComment-3541408 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durfast Spiritwolf Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 I'm thinking heavy weapon terminator squads, who else can advance and still lay down heavy weapon fire? Under the new edition, it's called snap fire :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/270656-incoming-heresy-models/page/84/#findComment-3541421 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 I'm thinking heavy weapon terminator squads, who else can advance and still lay down heavy weapon fire? Under the new edition, it's called snap fire :)The new Edition also brought those Hulking Blasphemies That Shall Remain Nameless. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/270656-incoming-heresy-models/page/84/#findComment-3541424 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Brother 92 Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 Could be 0-1 Heavy Weapon Squad who can buy Relentless, Tank Hunters, Skyfire or Preferred Enemy?? That would be pretty awesome :p Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/270656-incoming-heresy-models/page/84/#findComment-3541436 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onisuzume Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 Veteran Squads with those suspensor webs? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/270656-incoming-heresy-models/page/84/#findComment-3541464 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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