Wolf Standard Question

[N777ATH]

Hi Guys,

 

I'm a new Space Wolf player after using Grey Knights since they came out.

 

My question is at what point do you have to declare you are activating the Wolf Standard?

 

Someone you told me you have to declare it in your shooting phase as the rules for it say something about being active in the "next" assault phase.

 

But if that's the case and declare it your opponent may not charge you and it's been wasted.

 

Can you help guys?

[Reichfaust]

It's not specified when you actually declare it; I have always declared it at the beginning of the assault phase, which I think is pretty standard.

[Grey Mage]

No, you have to declare it before the assault phase starts, because it activates in "the next assault phase" this is important, because it can change whether or not your opponent assaults you, or gods forbid you fail your charge roll.

 

You can however wait until the end of your opponents shooting phase, then declare it.

[N777ATH]

Ah right, so even on here there is confusion about it lol

[dswanick]

Ah right, so even on here there is confusion about it lol

Not really :

"Once per game, a unit that includes a wolf standard may call upon the power of the wolf. For the duration of the next Assault Phase, all models in that unit may", C:SW, pg.62.

If you wait until an Assault phase to declare it's use, it won't take affect until the next Assault phase.  Declare it in a Shooting phase, and you're all set.

[N777ATH]

So you can only use it before your own assault phase?

[Squark]

No, you can also use it before your opponent's assault phase (So you get it when the squad gets charged)

[kenzman]

can you use it to reroll 1's on the assault move?

[dswanick]

can you use it to reroll 1's on the assault move?

Probably not, based on this C:SW FAQ answer:

"Q: Does a Wolf Standard allow Leadership test results to be re-rolled?

(p62)

A: No."

Most likely because you can't roll a "1" on 2d6 (2-12).  The same would apply for the Assault range roll.

[Ghostwolfalpha]

As far as I know, you can reroll all rolls of a 1 during that assault phase. If you have to declare it before the assault phase, then the wolf standard just lost some usefulness. I think it needs an errata to be for the remainder of the assault phase. I always declared it before anything happens in the assault phase.

[Squark]

 

can you use it to reroll 1's on the assault move?

Probably not, based on this C:SW FAQ answer:

"Q: Does a Wolf Standard allow Leadership test results to be re-rolled?

(p62)

A: No."

Most likely because you can't roll a "1" on 2d6 (2-12).  The same would apply for the Assault range roll.

Huh. It lost the bit where it specifically said that was specifically why you couldn't do it.

[new_pollution]

From the 5th edition FAQ:

 

Q. Does a Wolf Standard allow Leadership test results to

be re-rolled? (p62)

A. No, as it is impossible to roll a ʻ1ʼ on 2D6 – when

making a 2D6 result you must count both dice as a single

roll, not address them individually.

I don't play 6th Edition yet or own the BRB, but as far as I'm aware the assault move is 2d6 added together, thus a roll of '1' is still impossible. However, if the roll was like the move through cover roll where you roll 1 d6 twice and picked the highest result you could reroll the 1's there because they technically are 1's because they aren't added together. Unfortunately that roll is outside of the assault phase. However also from the 6th ed FAQ: 

 

Q: Does the Wolf Standard’s ability to re-roll any dicerolls of a1 apply

for the duration of the entire Assault phase, and thus allow 1's to be re-rolled on Overwatch To Hit and To Wound rolls as well as in the Fight

sub-phase? (p62)

A: Yes 

That might be of interest to you.

 

edit: formatting.