Tiger9gamer Posted February 16, 2013 Share Posted February 16, 2013 wow there is a lot of talk for forgeworld this week O.o anyways, I've been thinking of getting the stormEagle for my Ironwing as I like it much more than the nephilm right now. I've been thinking of using it as an AA and air support unit, maybe also putting a small Tactical squad inside for late game objective grabbing. What do you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Master Posted February 16, 2013 Share Posted February 16, 2013 With the transport capacity and assault vehicle rules I'd put Belial, a Int Chaplain & a squad of DW Knights in it to really spoil someone's day. I am seriously tempted myself but my wallet will not currently stretch. DM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheForgottenAngel Posted February 16, 2013 Share Posted February 16, 2013 Storm Eagles are awesome. I own 2 and absolutely swear by them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger9gamer Posted February 16, 2013 Author Share Posted February 16, 2013 well, I have a Land raider for deathstar transporting, but I don't want to lose a 500+ squad from a lascannon shot. I much rather lose a 136pt squad. the troop/ flyer I'm thinking of: Tactical squad (8 man, flamer, combi-flamer, melta bombs)-136pts F/A1 (?): Storm eagle ( lascannons)-230pts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polythemus Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 Im sure ive posted this elsewhere but storm eagle with only lascannon upgrade is 285 points, 225 base. They are cool but you need to have a plan for how you will use them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger9gamer Posted February 17, 2013 Author Share Posted February 17, 2013 285?! O-O by the lion's skidmarks! are they worth every point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
march10k Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 I don't own one, but, yeah, they're worth it. They're basically T-hawks scaled down from APOC (in points and badassedness) to 40k level. Deathstar in a land raider? Storm eagle comes on and hits it with a multimelta and two lascannons. Then the knight-star inside smites the deathstar that used to be in a land raider. Or...I guess instead of knights plus Bels and chappy, you could put ten generic termies in there? Either way, as long as you're nuking the enemy's land raider (or whatever) and dumping big termie pain off of an assault ramp on arrival, yeah, the SE is solid gold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polythemus Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 That depends. How are you using them or planning to use them? They can act as a bare bones transport with anti horde ability, or they can be tooled up and have a cheap squad placed inside. This second use would be for anti air and objective grabbing on turn 5. They are the best aircraft you can use that isnt an ally and they have a points cost to match. If you want to be more sensible get a vendetta. Way cheaper in price, way cheaper in points and way better rules. Hopefully it will be clubbed with the nerf sledgehammer (cause a bat would be too good for it,) but dont hold your breath. The only way guard players are going to use a points adjustment to his flyer (if the compendium provides one) is going to be in a new guard codex. And that aint coming soon thats for sure. But thats neither here nor there. The stormeagle is fun but its not points efficient in the current environment. It remains to be seen whether that will change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syphid Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 What is the deal with the Hellstrike missiles? Does the fact that it's a flyer overrule the normal Ordnance restrictions on shooting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
march10k Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 What restrictions? If you mean "if you move, you can't shoot," that only applies to non-vehicle models! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haranin Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 No. And while you will swear by the storm eagle when playing with it; while assembling it you will be swearing at it! I have another 2-3 weeks to wait for replacement parts. I got an extra bulkhead, no struts, and one fuselage was paper thin. You can only fire one ordinance weapon a turn; and snap shot other weapons. Ordinance can't snap fire, so one rocket, one POMS, and the rest is snap firing. Making the rockets ordinance made them practically useless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cypher 102 Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 Unless they're on a super-heavy like the Thunderhawk they came from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elphilo Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 I haven't used a Storm Eagle yet, but I have used the Storm Raven. And by comparison the Storm Eagle seems to be a lot better than the Storm Raven. So I would have to agree that it's worth every point. Though your plan for using it as a late game objective taker seems like wasting it. It's an assault transport. You want to put something scary in it. If you want a flying late game objective taker, take some IG allies with a veteran squad with plasma guns and a demo charge in a Vendetta. That'll clear almost any objective on the board. I also had the gun ship mindset for a while. It didn't work out like I thought it should. Once I said to my self, "self, you have to deposit that payload THEN make it a gun ship" it started working out for me. I actually got the units that I wanted in melee, in melee and then the vehicle became that gun ship. So while having a transport vehicle designated as a gun ship is okay, just don't make it it's primary objective. It should be an Alpha Striker. Put a unit of Deathwing Knights or Hamminators in there shove it in your opponents face and say deal with it. Then have the ship start dakkaing around the board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WatchCaptainAzrael Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 Save up for OvercastWeatherPigeon instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phaeton Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 At first glance, it looks overcosted. But then I think more complex and what I thought: In my roster I want an LRC to transport my assault group (260 pts with MM). Plus I want some really good AA - allied Vendetta. It's 250 minimum for one (Vendetta, empty ccs, empty vets) or 380 for two Vendettas. So, I have to spend 510/640 pts. And I can pay 300 and take all of this in StormEagle - assault transport plus very good AA. At this point StormEagle worthwhile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger9gamer Posted February 17, 2013 Author Share Posted February 17, 2013 That's what I'm thinking too. the gunship idea with a small squad would be good, I think. I don't really want my deathstar unit in there, but maybe a Deathwing squad? say, 3 TH/SS and 2 LC? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phaeton Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 Exactly the deathstar! Because StormEagle can make Deep Penetration ( ;) ) with enemy deployment zone. Enemy can screen his good choices of LR, but can't of over-the-top-36-inch assault transport. In the next turn you will wreak havoc. And if they destroy the flier, you still have 3++ of your Deathwing Knights. They will land near, take moderate losses and then assault an enemy. No escape! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger9gamer Posted February 17, 2013 Author Share Posted February 17, 2013 I don't mean the Knights, I mean regular DW o.o It's confusing X-X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Landrain Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 The problem is with being a flier...(and the no assault on arrival rule) At Best Turn two arrive from reserves, and turn 3 the unit inside gets to actually assault something. Roll badly and that Deathstar never gets into combat.. I really want a pair of them, just hate the fact that they cannot start the game in Hover mode on the board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger9gamer Posted February 17, 2013 Author Share Posted February 17, 2013 Someone at my GW said a Contemptor was money better spent. true? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cactus Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 If you were walking into a supermarket to buy food for your children I would still tell you a contemptor is money better spent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Izzuan Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 If you were walking into a supermarket to buy food for your children I would still tell you a contemptor is money better spent. just spit coffee all over my desk at work...caught me COMPLETELY off guard. Thanks for making my day :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger9gamer Posted February 17, 2013 Author Share Posted February 17, 2013 LOL okay XD which book is he in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cactus Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 Sorry about your desk Izzuan! The contemptor and contemptor-mortis are in Imperial Armour Apocalypse - Second Edition. [Edit] The contemptor-mortis is also in Imperial Armour Aeronautica with the storm eagle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger9gamer Posted February 18, 2013 Author Share Posted February 18, 2013 Perfect! :D I know what I'm getting soon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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