Legionator Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 Just out of interest, where is it said that the Word Bearers cause the rebellion on Olympia?I have not a clue. No need for a clue. A rebellion leading a legion to damnation. Who could be the conspirator? Alpharius? A rebellion of this scale must have been planned for a long time. Lorgar is the responsible for a high chance, because his legion were doing this kind of things long before the heresy and they are experts. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/271444-what-happens-if-the-emperor-choses-perturabo/page/3/#findComment-3317933 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 So it's a theory, not a fact? So wouldn't it be more appropriate to say the Tyrant of Lochos did it as I think thats who the IA article said did it? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/271444-what-happens-if-the-emperor-choses-perturabo/page/3/#findComment-3317947 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legionator Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 So it's a theory, not a fact? So wouldn't it be more appropriate to say the Tyrant of Lochos did it as I think thats who the IA article said did it? Didn't Perturabo kill him? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/271444-what-happens-if-the-emperor-choses-perturabo/page/3/#findComment-3317950 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blacksad Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 getting killed by a primarch usualy means you've done something that warrants their personal attention (or you're a red jacket) maybe the thing the IA article says he's done warrants personal primarch time? I don't know. haven't read it. them books are kinda expensive. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/271444-what-happens-if-the-emperor-choses-perturabo/page/3/#findComment-3318020 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 No, according to the IA article(just read it five seconds ago) Dammekos died while Perturabo was on Crusade. His death acted as some sort of catalyst and the population went crazy due to the inciting of some of the local leaders. My guess is that it was actually a civil war between the remaining leaders that went too far. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/271444-what-happens-if-the-emperor-choses-perturabo/page/3/#findComment-3318096 Share on other sites More sharing options...
godking Posted March 2, 2013 Author Share Posted March 2, 2013 Just out of interest, where is it said that the Word Bearers cause the rebellion on Olympia? Its implied in the First Heretic. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/271444-what-happens-if-the-emperor-choses-perturabo/page/3/#findComment-3318422 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 Just out of interest, where is it said that the Word Bearers cause the rebellion on Olympia?Its implied in the First Heretic. Where? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/271444-what-happens-if-the-emperor-choses-perturabo/page/3/#findComment-3318452 Share on other sites More sharing options...
godking Posted March 2, 2013 Author Share Posted March 2, 2013 Just out of interest, where is it said that the Word Bearers cause the rebellion on Olympia?Its implied in the First Heretic. Where? Xaphen implied it on page 364-369 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/271444-what-happens-if-the-emperor-choses-perturabo/page/3/#findComment-3318466 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 Hmm, looking at those pages seems to suggest, to me, that Xaphen helped organize the Iron Warriors' response, not the rebellion. But that might just be personal interpretation. Fair enough though Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/271444-what-happens-if-the-emperor-choses-perturabo/page/3/#findComment-3318592 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lagbenektelse Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 I just dont think it would be possible for a primarch to go chaosy on terra. The Emperor is right at hand and Malcador seems like a pretty shrewd judge of character as well. As to their comparable strengths at fortress building I would think that the Iron Cage incident showed what Perturabo could do when he decided to make a fortress. Also with Dorn unlikely to flip and Perturabo in charge of fortifying the Palace the whole idea of attacking Terra becomes less appealing as well. Separately something that seemed rather strange with A Crimson Fist is that Perturabo appears to have been...not himself. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/271444-what-happens-if-the-emperor-choses-perturabo/page/3/#findComment-3323086 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arachnid99 Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 Yeah I really didn't like the portrayal of Perurabo in Crimson Fist, he was such a scenery chewing disney villain and the fact that an ordinary marine out-admiralled him is just stupid. Angel Exterminatus has done a pretty good job of retconning him into a properly intimidating and capable Primarch, despite it's other flaws. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/271444-what-happens-if-the-emperor-choses-perturabo/page/3/#findComment-3323105 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 Yeah I really didn't like the portrayal of Perurabo in Crimson Fist, he was such a scenery chewing disney villain and the fact that an ordinary marine out-admiralled him is just stupid. Angel Exterminatus has done a pretty good job of retconning him into a properly intimidating and capable Primarch, despite it's other flaws. While I agree that "Messenger bring bad news? PERTURABO SMASH!" was a horrible moment in an author completely failing to understand the character he was writing, Saul Tarvitz and Loken were holding their own against three Primarchs at Isstvan and Pert isn't exactly a fleet action specialist, his being taken off guard because he was out of his wheel house and fighting a commander he didn't think he would be up against (remember, the IV expected Sigismund to be in charge) is something I can buy. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/271444-what-happens-if-the-emperor-choses-perturabo/page/3/#findComment-3323178 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arachnid99 Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 Tarvitz and Loken carried out a delaying action in a perfect defensive location (see Stalingrad why attacking a ruined city is a nightmare) against Angron, the least strategically or tactically capable Primarch of the lot before eventually getting crushed. Pollux was beating a larger force commanded by a Primarch on a level playing field (space) until he got called off. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/271444-what-happens-if-the-emperor-choses-perturabo/page/3/#findComment-3323472 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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