Arcantheus Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 I just realized that looking at wolves and nids that theyre useless id like some more info/help on Chaos Marines im officially switching to Chaos what do i do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazath Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 I just realized that looking at wolves and nids that theyre useless id like some more info/help on Chaos Marines im officially switching to Chaos what do i do Why are wolves and nids useless?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcantheus Posted February 21, 2013 Author Share Posted February 21, 2013 I just realized that looking at wolves and nids that theyre useless id like some more info/help on Chaos Marines im officially switching to Chaos what do i do Why are wolves and nids useless?? Well bacially im saying theyre useless compared to chaos if they worked together like my new Marne chapter i made most likeley not gonna be able to use it (tyranid space marines) they might be good but sepratley I personally think chaos would dominate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chillin Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 Nids and SW's are both good armies. As for what to do to play chaos, read around in here and the chaos army review section to get an idae what you want in your army and start buying models. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cap'm Heckus Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 Before you give up on either Sw or nids you might want to take a second look at how you can play them. Some of your frustrations could be solved by trying different units in the armies you already own. SW in particular can play veeery similarly to Chaos (multiple 10 man squads with BP+CCW and 2x Plasma, havocs vs. longfangs, etc..) and in some cases SW do it slightly better (drop pods, psyker-blocking, split fire). if it's their lack of fliers then take allies. If its the giant monster models you like, Tyrnids don't get much more giant monstery. If you don't like gaunt swarms try Genestealer swarms in drop spores or big tyranid warrior mobs. Don't get me wrong, I am currently a Chaos only player, but before you give up on 2 good armies take a look at how you're playing them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the jeske Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 aside for a hell drake I can think of nothing chaos has that SW wouldnt have else and SW have a lot of stuff that chaos doesnt have [drop pods] + it gets balanced by the fact that SW can battlebrother IG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcantheus Posted February 21, 2013 Author Share Posted February 21, 2013 aside for a hell drake I can think of nothing chaos has that SW wouldnt have else and SW have a lot of stuff that chaos doesnt have [drop pods] + it gets balanced by the fact that SW can battlebrother IG. Haha they may have drop pods but chaos has a warp gate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sception Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 As a general rule, Space Wolves are just the better version of us, apart from drakes, and it's not exactly fun to rely on that kind of crutch / one trick army. Sooner or later some shift in the meta will negate that crutch, as lash princes were negated in 5th edition, and then your army will just have nothing left to stand on. If you want to play chaos for the models and the fluff and the style, go ahead. But if you're just looking for a stronger, more versatile army, you're going to want to take another look at your space wolf book and ask around for advice on getting the most out of them. If you do want to try chaos, and are looking for the more effective options (rather than just grabbing whatever you like the look or fluff of and trying to make it work), you might consider starting with: bike lord with mark of nurgle and burning brand multiple small plague marine squads with dual plasma a pair of drakes with baleflamer, and an escort squad of nurgle bikes with meltas two units of two nurgle oblits, and a squad of unmarked havocs with all autocannons in an ADL with icarus or quad, possibly with the fearless banner if you're worried about them breaking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcantheus Posted February 21, 2013 Author Share Posted February 21, 2013 I was thinking about using Death guard or purge when I get a chaos army together but ill look at SW and nids again or i might pick all 3 to play as in diffrent games idk yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nehekhare Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 chaos has a warp gate a what? ...where? what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 I think he was talking about the fluff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the jeske Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 Isnt fluff dead ? list wise do what mali is saying . and you cant test it with the same models you use for SW . TWC=bikes GH=pms oblits=2LF . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcantheus Posted February 22, 2013 Author Share Posted February 22, 2013 Im sorry idk all terms for w40k whats fluff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 Im sorry idk all terms for w40k whats fluffFluff is the term we use for the background. Canon is somewhat inappropriate because the background is constantly changing, whether it be in little steps like the numbers of Astartes in the Legions, or very large steps like the Raven Guard clones now being labrats gone wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Furyou Miko Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 No, jeske, fluff isn't dead. No matter how many times you try to murder it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urauloth Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 Irony might be, though. Switching from SW to CSM while considering the former to be "useless" is uh. Well. It's certainly a thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcantheus Posted February 25, 2013 Author Share Posted February 25, 2013 Im sorry idk all terms for w40k whats fluffFluff is the term we use for the background. Canon is somewhat inappropriate because the background is constantly changing, whether it be in little steps like the numbers of Astartes in the Legions, or very large steps like the Raven Guard clones now being labrats gone wrong. thx for telling me that clears things up a lil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcantheus Posted February 25, 2013 Author Share Posted February 25, 2013 Irony might be, though. Switching from SW to CSM while considering the former to be "useless" is uh. Well. It's certainly a thing. well im saying that theyre usless compared to CSM i like SW still its just that after i red the CSM index I like them a lot more cuz i got it from christmas from my grandma its the only index i really have anyways. like i looked at sw index at the stor but i didnt have enough money to buy it so i left it alone so thats really y im for CSM right now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 Chaos Marines are a colorful faction with a lot of nuances and an unmatched depth, while Space Wolves are very one-dimentional. So if you're looking for a faction with a deep background, that's the way to go. On codices' power level, the SW one is "better" which means that most games will be an easy win without too much trouble, when the Chaos one is considered more balanced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcantheus Posted February 26, 2013 Author Share Posted February 26, 2013 Chaos Marines are a colorful faction with a lot of nuances and an unmatched depth, while Space Wolves are very one-dimentional. So if you're looking for a faction with a deep background, that's the way to go. On codices' power level, the SW one is "better" which means that most games will be an easy win without too much trouble, when the Chaos one is considered more balanced. I like them both but is it possible to play as Dark Wolves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcantheus Posted February 26, 2013 Author Share Posted February 26, 2013 Idk if isaid this but i love both SW and CSM so idk what to really do lol id love to play as both but i idk what to do i love nids too and everything is mixing me up lol i got nids a CSM codex and nothing SW lol wat do I do is it possible that i can play as all three. Idk if isaid this but i love both SW and CSM so idk what to really do lol id love to play as both but i idk what to do i love nids too and everything is mixing me up lol i got nids a CSM codex and nothing SW lol wat do I do is it possible that i can play as all three. Pretty sure this is posted as a misleading topic. You are looking to start an army, not looking to switch. The fact that you have no idea what anything does means you don't know that chaos is good, bad, or in between so far as rules go. Truth is, it's not good. It may be awesome, metal, brutal, or elsewise appealing, but it is not good when it comes down to comparing it to other armies. I picked chaos because I like making and painting custom models, which chaos has abundant opportunity for. Once you know what you want, your question will actually be addressable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcantheus Posted March 1, 2013 Author Share Posted March 1, 2013 The DW have drop pods how come the other CSM leigons dont have them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Furyou Miko Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 DW? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 The S is close to the D on azerty keyboards. I guess he meant SW. The answer to your rather simple question, Arcantheus, can be sumed up in one word : racism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chillin Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 it is racism (is chaos a race ??) !! We cant have drop pods , and we cant figure out how to take the LC's off a LR and bolt on bolters. I guess we're pretty stupid for people that can maintain fleets capable of inter-stellar travel and figure out how to make machines powered by daemons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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