Raeven Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 How does that work with the Black Templars. We don't have Locator beacons in our vehicle wargear, but it is listed as an option under the vehicle entry. Does that exclude us from taking it? Regardless, does the beacon work to prevent scatter when using skies of fury deep strike? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gentlemanloser Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 Same for the GK. Is the Locator Beacon included in the wargear section of the DftS suppliment? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorns Templar Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 The locator beacon: If a unit wishes to deploy via deep strike and chooses to do so within 6" of a model carrying a locator beacon, then it will not scatter. Note that the locator beacon must be on the table at the start of the turn for it to be used (Blood Angel codex, page 31). I can't find the rules for the locator beacon in the Death from the Skies book. Hope this helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gentlemanloser Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 Thing is, if the rules aren't in our Cdexes, FAQs for our Codexes, or the suppliment that gives access to them (there is a Wargear section in DftS), then; Can we use them? I know the rules for a locator beacon, I own a Codex contianing the rules. But it's not in the GK 'dex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raeven Posted February 25, 2013 Author Share Posted February 25, 2013 Right. Same for the Black Templar's. In DftS, the wargear lists the item, but as a blurb saying, "See relevant codex for the rules for these items." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 I would say you default to the parent codex of the unit being used- IE C:SM for the Talon, and C:BA for the Raven. If you dont have access to the correct book, dont take the option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jehoel Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 I believe that locator beacons are a drop pod item. I know they are in the Dark Angel codex. None of our other vehicles have them or can take them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gentlemanloser Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 I would say you default to the parent codex of the unit being used- IE C:SM for the Talon, and C:BA for the Raven. If you dont have access to the correct book, dont take the option. And how about GK Ravens? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acebaur Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 We are having this discussion in the BT forum. It seems like that according to the rules the unit inside the Raven can use Skies of Fury without scattering if it has a locator beacon after the Raven has been on the table for a turn. Does anyone have any evidence to the contrary? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gentlemanloser Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 And that might be why they missed off the Jump Pack/Interceptor no scatter from the new Skies of Fury rule... /meh the beacon would only work if you disembark within 6" of the Raven. While the old Interceptor/Jump Pack clause worked across the whole length of movement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaganLinuxGeek Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 We are having this discussion in the BT forum. It seems like that according to the rules the unit inside the Raven can use Skies of Fury without scattering if it has a locator beacon after the Raven has been on the table for a turn. Does anyone have any evidence to the contrary? So the locator beacon option WOULD prevent scatter using the stormraven's mid-zoom parachute option? Soory if I seem daft, in my defense. I am a newer player and the sr is very new option. EDIT: Also wouldn't the beacon 6" radius start from the BASE of stormraven? I THOUGHT I had read that embark / diembark moves were measured from the base of a flyer but perhaps not. I just checked BRB. Page 80 details that distances are measured from the BASE of a flyer for purposes of models embarking or disembarking. The BASE is considered the access point. Provided that you are placing the unit within 6" of the stormraven's base you do not scatter. The rule states that models may disembark anywhere along the flight path of the zooming flyer. So it would appear that as long as you pay the points cost for the locator beacon your skydiving units may land unharmed within 6" either side of the stormraven's flight path. Unless I am missing something. If so please explain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
company veteran Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 you move the raven its whole move, then pick the point you want to DS with skies of fury. if this is further than 6'' from the raven you still scatter..its kinda pointless really Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raeven Posted February 25, 2013 Author Share Posted February 25, 2013 No, you scatter if you don't roll a direct hit. So you still have a 2 in 6 chance to land where you want without penalty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
company veteran Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 i wasnt taking into account the dice..just the homer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Watch Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 you move the raven its whole move, then pick the point you want to DS with skies of fury. if this is further than 6'' from the raven you still scatter..its kinda pointless really That would be correct if the rules for the homer in the codex wouldn't state that it only works for units teleporting onto battlefield, and as far as I know Skies of fury is not teleporting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gentlemanloser Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 A Locator Beacon (an option for the Storm Raven as presented in the Death from the Skies suppliment) is different to a Teleport Homer. A TH only works when you Teleport. A LB doesn't have this restriction. I just checked BRB. Page 80 details that distances are measured from the BASE of a flyer for purposes of models embarking or disembarking. The BASE is considered the access point. Provided that you are placing the unit within 6" of the stormraven's base you do not scatter. The rule states that models may disembark anywhere along the flight path of the zooming flyer. So it would appear that as long as you pay the points cost for the locator beacon your skydiving units may land unharmed within 6" either side of the stormraven's flight path. Unless I am missing something. If so please explain. The radius of Wargear is measured from the Hull. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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