Valace2 Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 Master of Signal 85pts Librarian w/ 3 divination powers 135pts Apothecary 45pts (going with the large tactical squad) 6x Cataphractii terminators w/ paired lightning claws, 2x combi plasma, Thunder hammer, and heavy flamer 244pts 19x tactical squad w/ artificer armour and power fist(for the sergeant), vox, and extra CCW 313pts 10x Tactical squad 150pts Storm Eagle w/ TL HB, Vengeance Launcher, and 4x Hellstrike Missiles 230pts Predator Executioner 110pts 6x Heavy Support Squad w/ 6x missile launchers The Master of Signal tags along with the Heavy Support Squad and the Librarian goes with the Cataphractii in the Storm Eagle.I will be going against Speed Freak Orks so I will need as many blast templates as I can. Also went with the Hellstrikes on the Storm Eagle because there will probably be a couple Dakka Jets coming at me. Debating dropping the Artificer Armour and Power Fist on the Tac Sergeant because if I get into combat with bikes, the Nob will just kill him anyway and with two wounds he isn't likely to drop the Nob. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/271812-1500-point-imperial-fist-list-for-battle-with-speed-freaks/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
W0lfie Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 A few things: -The Predator executioner is your only tank. It will take about 10 seconds to die, because it has the biggest target possible painted right on it's head. -Why do the terminators have combi-plasmas? If you are going up against orks, they probably won't be necessary (unless they run Meganobz/Nob Bikers) and the points could be better spent elsewhere. Same thing with the Thunder Hammer: you will score more wounds with even MORE lightning claws, and all while striking before the orks. -You may want to take the lascannons on your stormeagle. They don't all get spent, only count as two weapon for firing and are stronger/TL. -If you're expecting dakka jets, did you give the heavy support squad flak missiles? -Have you considered finding points for a support squad? I probably don't need to tell you what happens to orks when they're hit by 10 flamer templates. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/271812-1500-point-imperial-fist-list-for-battle-with-speed-freaks/#findComment-3313589 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valace2 Posted February 25, 2013 Author Share Posted February 25, 2013 A few things: -The Predator executioner is your only tank. It will take about 10 seconds to die, because it has the biggest target possible painted right on it's head. -Why do the terminators have combi-plasmas? If you are going up against orks, they probably won't be necessary (unless they run Meganobz/Nob Bikers) and the points could be better spent elsewhere. Same thing with the Thunder Hammer: you will score more wounds with even MORE lightning claws, and all while striking before the orks. -You may want to take the lascannons on your stormeagle. They don't all get spent, only count as two weapon for firing and are stronger/TL. -If you're expecting dakka jets, did you give the heavy support squad flak missiles? -Have you considered finding points for a support squad? I probably don't need to tell you what happens to orks when they're hit by 10 flamer templates. Speed Freeks= Bikes, Bikes, and more bikes with some coptas and dakka jets thrown in. Flamers will negate their jink save but I will still have to roll a 5+ to wound with them. I took the combi plasma's because they have a better shot at wounding the bikes and defcoptas. With only 6 bodies their really isn't anything better I could give the Cataphractii. The Executioner should be safe because like I said its all speed freaks, no lootaz to be seen, will have a problem with the rockets on the coptas but I can deal with that. I like the lascannons on the Storm Eagle but the Hellstrike Missiles should do the job against the jets and I don't wanna cut 30 points from anywhere else to get them ditto for the flakk missiles. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/271812-1500-point-imperial-fist-list-for-battle-with-speed-freaks/#findComment-3313621 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haranin Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 p. 71 Hellstrike missiles suck Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/271812-1500-point-imperial-fist-list-for-battle-with-speed-freaks/#findComment-3313998 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valace2 Posted February 25, 2013 Author Share Posted February 25, 2013 p. 71 Hellstrike missiles suck Str 8 ap3 should be able to shoot down Dakka Jets? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/271812-1500-point-imperial-fist-list-for-battle-with-speed-freaks/#findComment-3314025 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haranin Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 If you fire an ordinance weapon, you are snapfiring the remainder of your weapons. Ordinance can't snap fire. So you can fire off one rocket, and the rest of your weapons are needing 6s (granted POTMS, but that should be using the vengeance launcher to smack down some infantry). TLLC and MM are popular for a reason. Expensive, but much better then ordinance rockets. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/271812-1500-point-imperial-fist-list-for-battle-with-speed-freaks/#findComment-3314035 Share on other sites More sharing options...
W0lfie Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 There's another issue with this list I think I've found, after looking at it a little longer: It is slow. You have the one squad with a stormeagle, and one tank, and the rest is footslogging infantry. The Ork player will be able to outmaneuver you, even if he can't beat you with brute force. Perhaps you could squeeze points for some jetbikes as mobile fire support? That could be an option, rather than the terminators even. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/271812-1500-point-imperial-fist-list-for-battle-with-speed-freaks/#findComment-3314460 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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