Wade Garrett Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 The Phoenician canonically put more of his fellow Primarchs on ice than any of his brothers (Ferrous and Roboute) and when he made the Gorgon shorter on Isstvan it was the second time he'd thrashed the X Primarch. It's not hype, the III Primarchs is just that (censored) good. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/271939-primach-showdown-the-ones-that-didnt-happen/page/2/#findComment-3317441 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billuriye Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 He was a daemon prince when he killed(?) Roboute. Hardly surprising given daemon primarchs are stronger than vanilla ones. In his duel with Ferrus, he was about to die. Ferrus was clearly overpowering him and Fulgrim cried helplessly "This is not right!". Then daemon in Laer sword intervened. Fulgrim isn't really that impressive. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/271939-primach-showdown-the-ones-that-didnt-happen/page/2/#findComment-3317445 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshall Bretton Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 also it is implied with guilli that he was busy fighting something else and fulgrim came up behind him and stabbed him, not really a fair fight. and he didn't even kill him either, the ultramarines had enough time to get him clear of the battle, get him on a ship and fly back to macragge and then sit him on a throne before they had to put him in stasis. not really relevant but it also seems impled to me that fulgrim used the anathame on guilli as well Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/271939-primach-showdown-the-ones-that-didnt-happen/page/2/#findComment-3317470 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legionator Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 also it is implied with guilli that he was busy fighting something else and fulgrim came up behind him and stabbed him, not really a fair fight. and he didn't even kill him either, the ultramarines had enough time to get him clear of the battle, get him on a ship and fly back to macragge and then sit him on a throne before they had to put him in stasis. not really relevant but it also seems impled to me that fulgrim used the anathame on guilli as well It is kind of funny that there is a daemon prince on your back and you don't aware of him. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/271939-primach-showdown-the-ones-that-didnt-happen/page/2/#findComment-3317542 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshall Bretton Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 lol agreed hehe, that was just the impression i got from reading one of the books, think it was one of the uriel ventris series, can't remember which or any quotes so meh Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/271939-primach-showdown-the-ones-that-didnt-happen/page/2/#findComment-3317547 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 As of Angel Exterminatus Fulgrim doesn't have Anathame any more. Also, Uriel Ventris? A member of the Ultramarines describing Rob and Fulgrim's throwdown to make Rob sound cooler and Fulgrim seem like even more of a turd head? Seems legitimate. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/271939-primach-showdown-the-ones-that-didnt-happen/page/2/#findComment-3317636 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Hadafix Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 The two best duellists Dorn v Fulgrim, perhaps Mortarian V Guilliman and way not Logar v Magnus for the lols of two nerds going at it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/271939-primach-showdown-the-ones-that-didnt-happen/page/2/#findComment-3317657 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter the Hermit Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 Sang would beat Lion. He's top 3 along with Horus and Angron. In straight up fight anyway. In your mind yes...In my mind he has problem with bloodthirsters, so Lion FTW and top 3 primarchs don't exist - only top 3 bad BL writers... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/271939-primach-showdown-the-ones-that-didnt-happen/page/2/#findComment-3317708 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter the Hermit Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 You know, for the Executioner Primarch, Russ's track record against his brothers (L-the Lion, L-Angron, W-Magnus*) *thanks to interference from his wolves and an extremely lucky shot First fight was a tie , second wasn't for the kill, and the third is debatable (index astartes/codex or book through Ahrimans eyes) And I would go with Lorgar vs Magnus Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/271939-primach-showdown-the-ones-that-didnt-happen/page/2/#findComment-3317716 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthMarko Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 I like to see Ferrus uppercuting Sanguinius :-) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/271939-primach-showdown-the-ones-that-didnt-happen/page/2/#findComment-3317718 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billuriye Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 In your mind yes...In my mind he has problem with bloodthirsters, so Lion FTW and top 3 primarchs don't exist - only top 3 bad BL writers... Good thing we have HH books so we know better than trusting your opinion. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/271939-primach-showdown-the-ones-that-didnt-happen/page/2/#findComment-3317722 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter the Hermit Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 So rank them...I will not...And grow up, please... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/271939-primach-showdown-the-ones-that-didnt-happen/page/2/#findComment-3317728 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billuriye Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 You should rather reshape your opinions based on published books instead of blaming me of immaturity. And writer bashing is danger zone here. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/271939-primach-showdown-the-ones-that-didnt-happen/page/2/#findComment-3317732 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthMarko Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 In your mind yes...In my mind he has problem with bloodthirsters, so Lion FTW and top 3 primarchs don't exist - only top 3 bad BL writers... Good thing we have HH books so we know better than trusting your opinion. Only thing known from HH books is that anybody can beat anybody if circustamces are good...And one opinion of Corax....So agree with Peter - your ranking is really childish.... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/271939-primach-showdown-the-ones-that-didnt-happen/page/2/#findComment-3317733 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billuriye Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 Only thing known from HH books is that anybody can beat anybody if circustamces are good...And one opinion of Corax....So agree with Peter - your ranking is really childish.... Corax places Horus, Sang and Angron top fighter territory. Same with Lorgar. I don't have a ranking really. I just parrot what i've read. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/271939-primach-showdown-the-ones-that-didnt-happen/page/2/#findComment-3317738 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter the Hermit Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 You should rather reshape your opinions based on published books instead of blaming me of immaturity. And writer bashing is danger zone here. Uuuuuu I shoud take opinion of an author over codex facts? *slow clap* Writer bashing ? When writer takes liberty to rank primarchs, and people use it to hit you with it....I should blindly follow? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/271939-primach-showdown-the-ones-that-didnt-happen/page/2/#findComment-3317740 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Ambroz Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 Codex isn't fact either, it's called writing from a perspective. The writer was also writing from the character's perspective again..... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/271939-primach-showdown-the-ones-that-didnt-happen/page/2/#findComment-3317742 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthMarko Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 Only thing known from HH books is that anybody can beat anybody if circustamces are good...And one opinion of Corax....So agree with Peter - your ranking is really childish.... Corax places Horus, Sang and Angron top fighter territory. Same with Lorgar. I don't have a ranking really. I just parrot what i've read. Corax said that "he thinks" only Horus AND MAYBE Sang - could take down Angron...So even if you go by this CORAX OPINION...Who says that Dorn couldn't split his face (also stated in one book)...? Codex isn't fact either, it's called writing from a perspective. The writer was also writing from the character's perspective again..... You are right - but codex is a bit more objective on that matter...or offers less information... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/271939-primach-showdown-the-ones-that-didnt-happen/page/2/#findComment-3317745 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billuriye Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 Corax said that "he thinks" only Horus AND MAYBE Sang - could take down Angron...So even if you go by this CORAX OPINION...Who says that Dorn couldn't split his face (also stated in one book)...? Corax saw Angron fighting at Istvaan. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/271939-primach-showdown-the-ones-that-didnt-happen/page/2/#findComment-3317747 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthMarko Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 it's still only insecure Corax...I'm sure other p have different opinion... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/271939-primach-showdown-the-ones-that-didnt-happen/page/2/#findComment-3317748 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Ambroz Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 @Darth - Yeah they're both very opinionated, the codex from a propaganda POV, the novels from the character's POV/opinons. Pretty sure all the primarchs had seen each other fight in the past so that isn't too relevant. It was only Corax's opinion. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/271939-primach-showdown-the-ones-that-didnt-happen/page/2/#findComment-3317751 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthMarko Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 Yeah, it's like Guiliman's " special few" legions which people abuse like that one liner from Corax... Doesn't mean that those 4 are better then others - only Guiliman sees them working better with the UM then the rest.... But dude that Corax opinion is really most used sententce in ranking primarchs since that book came out.... I'm really sad for that.... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/271939-primach-showdown-the-ones-that-didnt-happen/page/2/#findComment-3317777 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billuriye Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 Pretty sure all the primarchs had seen each other fight in the past so that isn't too relevant. It was only Corax's opinion. Dunno. Maybe in practice bouts which it's guaranteed that Angron didn't show up. Other than that, we don't know any joint World Eaters, Imperial Fists compliance for Dorn to see Angron at his truest. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/271939-primach-showdown-the-ones-that-didnt-happen/page/2/#findComment-3317784 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshall Bretton Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 lets be honest though, the crusade went on for centuries, the chances are that at one point or another all the legions fought alongside each other so they will have seen each other fight Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/271939-primach-showdown-the-ones-that-didnt-happen/page/2/#findComment-3317791 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zynk Kaladin Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 Id like to see the two lost legion primarchs fight. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/271939-primach-showdown-the-ones-that-didnt-happen/page/2/#findComment-3317834 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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