Dual vindicator ravenwing escort. Opinions needed.

[Brother Immolator]

Brothers I want opinions on a dual vindicator escort list. I have used this in the cursed days when I was playing with the smurf codex (before I decided to go for reeducation and grind my teeth and play with ours till the new dex arrived some odd years later).

Back then I used a list of dual vindicators (BT ones burrowed from a friend I had not a single vehicle), escorted by a biker screen (4 squads and sam with the speeder) bubble wrapped around them to protect them from melta and give them a cover save shooting as they went. Meanwhile speeders were peppering the enemy from afar and the fourth squadron was meltaing (new word check your dictionary ) tanks, till the vindicators reached optimal range. Then the squadrons broke formation rapidfired and assaulted the most vulnerable units of the enemy. That worked especially well in MSU armies since most of the time the speeders / melta bikes had cracked opened the transports and the vindicators could work their magic.

The real pain was to get them there but once there and firing it was hell.

I am thinking on revisiting this tactic now. Especially since the costs (point wise) are down I could cram more boys and toys in there and I was thinking either a command squad with a banner and libby with force field in razror back in between the vindies (creating a convoy) and the banner of devastation making the bikes salvo four for the duration of the escort and the 4 save from the generator, or a dark shroud.

The formation most of the time was like this:

( YY ) bikes on the flanks and front and the vindies in the middle/back

Now I am thinking something like this: ( Y )

( Y ) (for some reason they dont align, I trust you get the idea).

Bikes on the flanks and front in the middle vidi, shroud/razorback/vindi on the back

Any thoughts? Not only encouraging obviously, I want to identify any weakness I have not thought off myself. So shoot away.

[Tiger9gamer]

Don't get attached to them, as they die like Redshirts from startrek.

 

They do well when not in flames though. :P

[Brom MKIV]

I've been using ravenwing with the std and IMO the footprint you suggest will often be too big to wield properly. Plus you will hate opposing blast weapons.

 

I think you can still include all those elements but not all will properly benefit from the std at once, unless you play very terrain lite that is. Also consider putting the cmd squad inside a DW crusader since its the locus of your forces, you don't want them left walking or destroyed easily.

 

Lastly vindis are better this edition but you will receive conflicting feedback on their performance. Basically poor against gun lines usually and good against infantry. Personally I love my twin vindis but I believe they function so well because I drop pod several units in to kill longer ranged threats and apply more immediate pressure. Yes I do take that risk and yes it has resulted in friendly fire, once or twice.. it rarely ever matters honestly.

 

Consider focusing on the armored continent and tool the bikes with melta. The mech should draw most of the attention.

 

That's what u got.