TheSniperMonkey Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 Brothers, I have posted this in the PCA section but I thought I'd ask here as it was SW specific colours. I'm looking to start airbrushing at least the first two layers and first wash on my space wolves. The base process I use is: The Fang Russ Grey Nuln Oil Does anyone know of any equivalents in the Vallejo air range? Just think that to start with using airbrush formulated paints would be better. Any other suggestions for brands also welcome! Thanks, TSM Also, I haven't had much success thinning GW paints and have read they aren't great for airbrushes anyway. :-/ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/272135-vallejo-air-or-other-airbrushing-equivalents/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iacton Qruze Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 I use GW paint in my airbrush, never had any problems. They do require a good bit more water to thin than some other paints out there, though. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/272135-vallejo-air-or-other-airbrushing-equivalents/#findComment-3318183 Share on other sites More sharing options...
pmodonnell Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 Ditto. I typically use GW paint in my airbrush for painting me Space WOlves. Just use water (I use distilled water) to thin the paint down. Usually about a 1 to 1 ratio or water to paint, ultimately you want to have the consistancy of 2% milk. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/272135-vallejo-air-or-other-airbrushing-equivalents/#findComment-3318444 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Brother 92 Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 I've used GW paints (used a little white spirit/thinners before spraying) and they work alright, although I prefer using Tamiya paints as they're easier to thin if needs be and I just find them easier to use - then again Tamiya are acrylics whereas as Citadel/GW aren't... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/272135-vallejo-air-or-other-airbrushing-equivalents/#findComment-3318731 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wintera Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 This video might be of interest to you if you like your wolves to be grey rather than light blue At the start it shows a Vallejo and GW paint equivalents. Have a look at the final model and decide if you want to go lighter/darker/bluer from there. This is the process I have used for my wolves and I must say its easy to do and the results are pretty great. Vallejo paints go though the airbrush really well and the model air range if great esp as a light primer. As a previous poster said don't worry to much about ratio mixes start from an easy 50-50 mix and them make it a little thinner until its the consistency of milk. You cant really mix it to thin as long as your not blasting it onto the model all it means if you do a few extra passes over with that colour. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/272135-vallejo-air-or-other-airbrushing-equivalents/#findComment-3319945 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bikeninja Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 Look at Mediterranian Blue from Vallejo. It is the best equivalent to Shadow Grey. Also, the new Badger Minitaire paints are awesome. However the 2 colors they have for Wolves are way too bright in my opinion. Using them for highlights and stuff only. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/272135-vallejo-air-or-other-airbrushing-equivalents/#findComment-3321592 Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedrogzc Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 Hi! For my wolves' armour I only use vallejo model air, althought they aren't the exactly colours you use. Over a very dark grey (black would be ok) primer, I airbrush intermediate blue (a darker and bluer hue than old shadow grey), then 45º cenital of USA grey (like codex grey, without blue hue) and then pale blue grey (very similar to old space wolves grey) in specific light points. Anyway, as master Iacton told you, there aren't any problems using GW colours with the airbrush. I use them with tamiya thinner (i think that any isopropyl alcohol could serve) and they don't clogg the brush. If you finally use Vallejo model air, never dilute them with alcohol, only their specific thinner, because they have a vynilic compound that tend to coagulate in alcohol. Good hunt! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/272135-vallejo-air-or-other-airbrushing-equivalents/#findComment-3321752 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSniperMonkey Posted March 11, 2013 Author Share Posted March 11, 2013 Thanks for the responses guys. I'm guessing things I've read on various sites about GW paints clogging up airbrushes were due to people not thinning them properly. I'll stick to those for now and just have to experiment with my thinning until I find something that works. Makes life a lot easier as some models looking different would really bug me! Any general tips for an airbrush beginner? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/272135-vallejo-air-or-other-airbrushing-equivalents/#findComment-3325169 Share on other sites More sharing options...
skeletoro Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 Get into the habit of cleaning your airbrush thoroughly right from the get-go, and be careful not to break the needle while doing so :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/272135-vallejo-air-or-other-airbrushing-equivalents/#findComment-3325367 Share on other sites More sharing options...
skeletoro Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 Anyway, I had a question about the colours I'm planning on using with my airbrush. Has anybody had good results mixing codex/fortress (i.e. the colours often used for pre-heresy) with the russ/fenrisian grey? I want to keep some blue in my grey, but I want to try something a bit less blue. I was thinking of just going russ+codex and highlighting up to fortress+fenrisian (maybe a bit past there). Has anybody tried this? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/272135-vallejo-air-or-other-airbrushing-equivalents/#findComment-3325369 Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedrogzc Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 Anyway, I had a question about the colours I'm planning on using with my airbrush. Has anybody had good results mixing codex/fortress (i.e. the colours often used for pre-heresy) with the russ/fenrisian grey? I want to keep some blue in my grey, but I want to try something a bit less blue. I was thinking of just going russ+codex and highlighting up to fortress+fenrisian (maybe a bit past there). Has anybody tried this? Yes, I use the pale blue grey for high lights over a near codex grey base, you shouldn't have problems, you'll get a neither pre-heresy, neither standar space marine armour. http://arsiesweb.com/2012/09/ultramarines-sternguard-step-by-step.html Hope this article helps you. For me was of great value. About the airbrush tips, adding to what skeletoro told you, always thin enough the paint, don't try to get the results in the first tries or with just a single spray. Is better to use a well thinned paint, low pressure and low amount of paint for the beginning. Making airbrushing "calygraphy" is always good. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/272135-vallejo-air-or-other-airbrushing-equivalents/#findComment-3325382 Share on other sites More sharing options...
skeletoro Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 Wow, they went right from black all the way to white in that one. Looks really good though! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/272135-vallejo-air-or-other-airbrushing-equivalents/#findComment-3325626 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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