yhta Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 for me i always the thosand sons, magnus bring his homeworld in a grat state from the bring of extintion, the egyptian look always like me and most than anything is the fact that they love knowlage in a setting were ignorace is literaly a bleasing magnus also a tragic figure, he commit mistake but is the fact that chaos use is retribution in his own way and the fact that the russ buthcer never see the fact that they were use by the archi betrayer make everything worst, know the legion is a shadow of their forme glory, they,are,dust and something i don like is how the TS are look now, they are the smallest traitor legion, and apart the rubric,their tzeetichan warlocks and their hate fo the wolf, there is nothing more, the fact that the always lost(yes the battle of the fang is a tatical win, the sons lost more than won) is really jarring for me, but anyway, thats are my reasons Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/272198-the-allure-of-the-traitor-legions/page/2/#findComment-3322961 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lokkorex Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 iron within, iron without. without a doubt i'm iron warrior to the heart. they are so sad, really, having been trust into one meatgrinder after another, slowly cutting away what was left of their humanity, until it took them destroying their own people, their own families, to feel something again. and after that, and the failure of the heresy, they have been so consumed by bitterness and hatred that they have lost all reason to live except to destroy what they once helped to build. i'm also a sorta cold person to people until i get to know them, a bit paranoid, melancholic, cynical, bitter and i thrive on being angry and feeling hate, because it suppresses those damn feelings of regret, sadness and hopelessness that dwell within me. was that a good reason? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/272198-the-allure-of-the-traitor-legions/page/2/#findComment-3322966 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azekai Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 they have been so consumed by bitterness and hatred that they have lost all reason to live except to destroy what they once helped to build. Interesting, that is quite similar to what I was going to bring up with the Death Guard. Their failure and weakness was to give in an succumb to Nurgle, and they have been trying to annihilate the Imperium ever since. Their hatred has been internalized, however, to the point that they draw strength and even inspiration from their physical debasement. This wretched state stands in stark contrast to the pride that the XIV Legion exhibited during the Crusade. Despite their vaunted strength and tenacity, their own egotistical self-perceptions were shattered in an instant by Father Nurgle. The Death Guard's total physical, mental, and spiritual failure has shaped their entire post-heresy existence, and I love it. Incorruptible spacemen are as boring as they are unrealistic. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/272198-the-allure-of-the-traitor-legions/page/2/#findComment-3323006 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lokkorex Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 glad that somebody could find something of value in that post, was a bit tired when i wrote it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/272198-the-allure-of-the-traitor-legions/page/2/#findComment-3323569 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthMarko Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 Funny I was totally "All is dust guy" (before HH books), but the constant non-objective whining from "TS" fans (after certain book) made me 100% "Fenris Hjolda"... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/272198-the-allure-of-the-traitor-legions/page/2/#findComment-3323712 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durfast Spiritwolf Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 The HH series has certainly brought greater depth to all the Legions and those Primarchs covered to date, but especially the bad guys. I'm looking forward to a 'proper' DG story, as opposed to them running as background to Garro etc. Not complaining mind, I've enjoyed the whole series to date :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/272198-the-allure-of-the-traitor-legions/page/2/#findComment-3324095 Share on other sites More sharing options...
godking Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 For me, it is a complicated yet simple answer. I chose the Night Lords because out of all Legions, Renegades, and Loyalists, they admit to the truth of the 40k universe: There is no good. Most of them realize this and accept who they are and that they will burn in whatever hell awaits them in the warp, but they will go with a smile on their face knowing that they did exactly what they wanted to. Very few of them hide behind facades of "honor" and "nobility." Very few were ever loyal to their Primarch. An even smaller number(if it exists) were loyal to the Emperor the time the Heresy broke out. And yet, despite all of this, their honesty about their darker nature has been vindicated. The Emperor could have stopped Curze at any point in time from going down the road he did. The Administratum could have kept the fear of the Night Haunter in the people of Nostramo. But they didn't. The Night Lords became the very weapon they say they are. The Emperor may not have sanctioned the transformation, but he did nothing to stop it and as such, he is just as responsible for the Night Lords as Curze and the Administratum. And as such, they are vindicated. They know and admit they are monsters and they are not wrong when they say the Imperium and the Emperor is at fault because they are. I hope that post made sense because it looked like jibberish to me I disagree somewhat with your point of view. Curze stayed a monster because that is all he knew and i find it somewhat hypocritical that he hated his own sons when he himself never showed them another way. Sevatar's comments in prince of crows where apt he could have chosen a different tack after being discovered by the emperor. The imperium flawed as it is is not responsible for the fate of the Night Lords. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/272198-the-allure-of-the-traitor-legions/page/2/#findComment-3324899 Share on other sites More sharing options...
godking Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 For me its the Iron warriors. They took on the tough dirty gritty siege jobs that nobody else wanted to do. A close second are the thousand sons. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/272198-the-allure-of-the-traitor-legions/page/2/#findComment-3324900 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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