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Grey Knight falls to chaos


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So, in reading through the new daemons codex I had a sad. A Grey Knight has been corrupted by Chaos! Here's the story though, to put it into context:

 

A lone wandering "knight" of the Adeptus Astartes visits the realm of Slaanesh, "with a will as strong as silvered adamantium".

 

He passes through the various circles of his domain, easily rebuffing the desires in each. Once he got to the golden fields with naked women the first cracks appear. Also, we see that marines still have a little bit goin' on there. "The knight held his breath and closed his eyes, for though mortal pleasures were forbidden to his order, part of him was still a man." Then: "The crooning nymphs gathered around the knight, stroking his silvered armor..." He slaughters them which is great, but still.

 

Then we get to: "...reminding him of the executions he had performed in the Emperor's name. mirrored pools reflected the knight as a shining saint, his face serene but his sword bloodied as he artfully carved apart rank after rank of red-skinned Daemons. The warrior turned away, troubled."

 

This, I feel, references the slaughter of Sisters of Battle to defeat Khorne. Derp.

 

Finally, he reaches Slaanesh himself.

 

"The knight unsheathed his rune-etched sword and made to strike him down. To his horror, he found that he could not, for the god-prince was disarming in his innocence and utterly beguiling in his manner. Even the purest flame can be extinguished by the tide. In that single moment of doubt the wanderer was lost. He knelt, bowing his head at least, and a single touch of the being's glowing sceptre on each shoulder sealed his fate for eternity."

 

 

 

Discuss the ramifications of this fluff.

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True, and that's the way GW likes to write.

 

There's just too much going on that I would be hesitant to say that it's anyone BUT a Grey Knight. No other chapters are so resistant to Chaos, much less walk the realm, for instance.

It just seems to shore up the idea that the vaunted 'incorruptibility' of the GKs is not, in fact, word-of-god, unbiased truth, but rather what GKs are claimed to be. Anything human (or post-human) can indeed be corrupted. If the old Realm of Chaos haven't been [REDACTED], then the Emperor himself is not beyond the beguiling corruption of chaos. That being the case, there is no reason why some lesser mortals should be completely impervious.

Personally I hope it is a GK. As it would finally put to rest the Crowe fiasco and the SOB blood soaking event. I like to think of them as being chosen because they have the strongest of will (and trained to get even stronger), not that they are immune to corruption.

The bigger(est) "what if" in my mind, is that (by GW design) every codex is written/inspired by Tzeentch itself. How many times in this web site alone, have I seen it stated(hypothiszed) that all material readable about 40k is propiganda and embelishment. Most books have censors "by the inquisition", so most of what you read is editied by something beyond GW and their writers. The big question is how many(if any) books are written by Tzeentch and edited by the Inquisition?

I've always maintained the Codex material works by hyperbole and exaggeration, or just plain inaccurate deliberately. The truth will be covered in BL novels, as seen in The Chapter's Due.

 

GK are incorruptible, just like the Emperor's noble Primarchs...

Ah, BL novels...

 

Where a GK Justicar kills for the Blood God.  Logan easily decpitates a GKGM in a single swing before said GM can even draw his weapon.  Every Chapter has faced, and defeated, Daemons.  And a Techmarine kills a Talos by holding onto its back, pulling armour plates off it, before climbing inside.

 

Oh and Marines constantly use belts of grenades to cause massive explosions.

 

Or the BL books where a single squad of Marines single handidly decimate entire worlds of Xenos.

 

I'm quite partial to the BL truth that the Dark Angels actually only have a single 'homeworld' and are all of native amrican stock.  But that was retconned by Codexes.  So it can't be true...

The difference between this piece of fluff and the khorne/sisters fluff is that in this piece of fluff the silver armoured marine actually is corrupted. 

 

The Khorne/Sisters fluff does NOT corrupt the Grey Knights - it influences them, it affects them, but nowhere after that piece of fluff do the Grey Knights turn or become servants of khorne.

 

Just because I have a hangover doesn't mean I'm an alcoholic - it just means I've been affected and influenced by the vast quantities of beer I've supped, but a few hours later I'll be fine.

 

Ditto the GK, I mean we all do daft things when we're drunk...

The Khorne/Sisters fluff does NOT corrupt the Grey Knights - it influences them, it affects them, but nowhere after that piece of fluff do the Grey Knights turn or become servants of khorne.

Nor do they need to "turn or become servants", they are already servants of the Chaos Gods. Lock, stock, and barrel. smile.png

 

The Khorne/Sisters fluff does NOT corrupt the Grey Knights - it

influences them, it affects them, but nowhere after that piece of fluff

do the Grey Knights turn or become servants of khorne.

They clearly aren't willing servants of Khorne. But they serve him no matter what.

Can we just ignore the entire new Daemon dex?

The rules? Not really. The fluff? I mean, I've been ignoring most of the fluff in recent codecies anyway. We are allowed to take what we wish and discard what we don't in that area. A. D-B. and others have said "There is no canon" after all. <3

That said, at least it took a freakin' god to turn this random Grey Knight. Since it's Slaanesh we get to blame the Eldar. msn-wink.gif

It's pretty consistent when you think about it. Slaanesh was often described as irresistible to any mortal who might gaze upon him. Grey Knights have never faced him directly therefore have not come across this irresistible force. Now it's happened it's fairly logical.

 

The only problem is going forward we'll read a new Codex GK and it'll tell us they have never been corrupted. However I think this just highlights my position that each Codex gives a coloured version of events. It could be the Daemons Codex is lying or exaggerating.

The only problem is going forward we'll read a new Codex GK and it'll tell us they have never been corrupted. However I think this just highlights my position that each Codex gives a coloured version of events. It could be the Daemons Codex is lying or exaggerating.

I still see "Draigo and Friends" and "Blood Angels allying with Necrons" being seditious lies and made up tales of some hiveworld miner for his children. You know, the kind of stories that persist for a month or two prior to Exterminatus.

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