marshal seanisi Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 So now that I'm completely up to date on the Horus Heresy series, Including the Sigillite which IMHO was a total waist, Really didn't move the story along at all. Does anyone else feel as tho the Black Library should really dig their collective heals in the mud and start moving the story along towards the battle of Terra?. It just seems to me like they continue to find more and more "filler" and not really any content that gets me excited about the Grand Finally. I know it's all about making money for them but they can continue the story along even after the battle of Terra. Plenty happens afterwards. They can go as far as the creation of the second founding even. Sorry for the Rant but It's been six years now!! come on already. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/272503-the-sigillite/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
gogmagog Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 Tell us about the Sigillite? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/272503-the-sigillite/#findComment-3323790 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowMaster Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 I just finished listening to Sigillite, I enhojet it a lot (lol yes). Sure, the HH plot does not move much at all but for a freak like me who loves 40K fillers and fluff it's great. When the sigillite takes us to the last destination, epic moment, the one we pay the money for, I had no idea it was that bad down there! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/272503-the-sigillite/#findComment-3323809 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Lorne Walkier Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 Sneak peak is out. http://www.blacklibrary.com/Blog/the-motive-behind-the-mask.html I can't wait to get this. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/272503-the-sigillite/#findComment-3323899 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rx781a Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 PLEASE!!!! more info Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/272503-the-sigillite/#findComment-3323901 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trankz Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 So now that I'm completely up to date on the Horus Heresy series, Including the Sigillite which IMHO was a total waist, Really didn't move the story along at all. Does anyone else feel as tho the Black Library should really dig their collective heals in the mud and start moving the story along towards the battle of Terra?. It just seems to me like they continue to find more and more "filler" and not really any content that gets me excited about the Grand Finally. I know it's all about making money for them but they can continue the story along even after the battle of Terra. Plenty happens afterwards. They can go as far as the creation of the second founding even. Sorry for the Rant but It's been six years now!! come on already. I agree. They could have explained more. Tell us about the Sigillite? They explained few nice things about him. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/272503-the-sigillite/#findComment-3323917 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rx781a Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 anyone have full spoilers?? please and thank you of course Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/272503-the-sigillite/#findComment-3323919 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trankz Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 My impression:The story get 5 stars only in the last few minutes. Its a nice one but could be epic, they spent tomuch time with the preliminaries. I loved the story but not for what I was expecting HELP: where I can find the spoiler option to hide some text? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/272503-the-sigillite/#findComment-3323921 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthMarko Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 ["spoiler"] ["/spoiler"] without the quotes Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/272503-the-sigillite/#findComment-3323929 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trankz Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 ["spoiler"] ["/spoiler"] without the quotes Thanks Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/272503-the-sigillite/#findComment-3323933 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trankz Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 I liked: I liked the way they explained where the emperor was when he was absent before the Battle of Terra. Cool the way they let us imagine what he was doing behind the doors and the implication of Magnus with all that. My thoughts: Emperor was in the webway helping the loyalists when possible. All moments that his presence was felt in others stories (like Garro) he was really there, helping and guiding, like a counterbalance of the influence of the power of Chaos. I loved that Brotherhood of the Storm (my possible) Spoiler: When Targutai saw one man against 4 divinities it realy was the emperor aiding him, behind the doors in his fortress About the Lost Legion numbers: No explanation at all. I missed something? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/272503-the-sigillite/#findComment-3323935 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WatchCaptainAzrael Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 I really wish they'd stop with the misleading product sales... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/272503-the-sigillite/#findComment-3323946 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustus Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 BL is under no obligation to "finish" writing the Heresy. As with 40k it is a setting. That said however, the Sigillite was very misleading. The story is mainly about a super secret Imperial Guard trooper who, including his squad, has been sent on a super secret mission from orders where they really don't know who sent them. Next we have that same Trooper waiting to meet the person who has summoned him to the Palace--the Sigillite. The Sigillite explains that he while Dorn has his mission to save the Imperirum physical being it is his job to save its "soul" which is the reason for the crusade. Enlightenment. Very little is revealed. It is interesting to hear that he thinks that an Empire if not ruled by the Emperor could be rules efficiently and effectively by 12 good men. But that 12 good men devoted to a good purpose would be difficult to find. This view he differs with the Emperor on. The Emperor, according to Malcador, feels that it is the duty of any leader to make the necessity of his rule obsolete. Malcador feels that the human race will always need the Emperor and he will rule forever. I also got the impression that "the Sigillites" are an order. That perhaps they are "shamans" of old and are dedicated to fighting chaos. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/272503-the-sigillite/#findComment-3324051 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gogmagog Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 Thanks people Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/272503-the-sigillite/#findComment-3324161 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthMarko Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 Only interesting part of the audio was when Sigilite says that "if he choose to save one traitor, it would be Lorgar" I'm a big fan of CW, but this is really short and bad (like "the Warmaster" was)....I hope "Blood of Asanhaim" won't disapoint me.... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/272503-the-sigillite/#findComment-3324180 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xin Ceithan Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 I do Not see the rush to move things along here. We all know how the heresy ends. I for one am more interested in the things that happen between and even before or after the battle of terra. It's why there's such an emphasis son the traitor legions IMO. While you learn a couple of new and interesting (and maybe not so nice ) things about the loyalists and their primarchs, we know most of their stories . It' s what trashed the Star Wars prequels IMO. THe major plot twist were all known and they tanked at making us care for the characters....So it' s not only nice to see how the primarchs and legions were before the heresy we need to have that feeling of loss at what the crusade could have accomplished. with so much of 40k lore taken from classical texts and history, this needs to be drama. when Horus and Sanguinus finally face each other I do not want to flip this over thinking "we'll get to the battle with the BigE already". ad for that, we need stories that maybe do not pace the main plot along but build up the pressure. If "The Sigilite" does any of this, I' ll see once I listened to it over this weekend. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/272503-the-sigillite/#findComment-3324186 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaSY Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 loves the audio drama and we can see philosophical differences between Emperor and Sigilite... The voice of acting for Malcador is so so brilliant... At least we do not doubt Emperor's sacrifice and his '' noble intention''... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/272503-the-sigillite/#findComment-3324334 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apothecary Vaddon Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 They hyped it up a lot. They failed pretty hard to meet the hype, IMO. The gist of the entire thing was to highlight what Malcador's purpose was. As a standalone audio drama, with no sequel or follow-up hinted at yet, it's not that great. It was sort of cool to see what the Regent thought about the whole thing, and his view on the Emperor. It was also interesting to find out that the Sigillites are an order, or he is a part of an order that has always had a Sigillite(s). But the only talk about the missing Legions was Hassan seeing two scratched out statues/figureheads. I also liked the very end, with the giant doors and the implications behind what the Emperor was doing behind those doors, but ... this was so much filler it's not really even funny. Okay, so Hassan was sent to retrieve the Rosetta stone ... great. This could have easily been relegated to some obscure reference in a codex, or even a future novel. Why the hell make an entire audio book out of it? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/272503-the-sigillite/#findComment-3324465 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trankz Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 Any theory about what was hapening behind those doors? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/272503-the-sigillite/#findComment-3325197 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blacksad Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 initiation of sisters of silence. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/272503-the-sigillite/#findComment-3325339 Share on other sites More sharing options...
malika666 Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 Any theory about what was hapening behind those doors? War for the Webway Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/272503-the-sigillite/#findComment-3325356 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apothecary Vaddon Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 initiation of sisters of silence. helluva initiation "here, go fight the biggest, baddest daemons the universe has ever seen. If you come out alive, here's a pat on the back." Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/272503-the-sigillite/#findComment-3325842 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[TA]Typher Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 Any theory about what was hapening behind those doors? I bought "the collected visions" a couple of years ago, they state that the Emperor tried connecting the webway to earth, so humanity could use it instead of direct warp travel. Unfortunately Magnus broke it and demons flooded in. The emperor, custodians and the sisters of silence are fighting a war for terra itself. That is why the Emperor can not leave it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/272503-the-sigillite/#findComment-3326009 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hereticus81 Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 Any theory about what was hapening behind those doors? The following is based on extrapolations mainly from The Collected Visions and Thousand Sons and may contain minor spoilers regarding the latter stages of the Heresy. The Emperor, Custodes and Sisters of Silence are fighting a never ending tide of daemons. When Magnus utilised sorcery to throw his Astral Self across the Galaxy to Terra he got a power bump from a warp entitiy, Tzeentch in my opinion, and punched his way into the Webway leaving a hole for Warp Entities to flood in. Magnus then devestated the wards that the Emperor had painstakingly built around the Golden Throne* meaning Daemons could potentially flood into the chambers at the basement of the Emperors Palace. Exactly what the Emperor is doing is open for contention as is much in 40K and the Heresy. I previously thought he was sat on the Golden Throne stopping the daemons from flooding onto Terra while the Custodes and Sisters hold the daemons back through force of arms and without His will powering the throne the fight would be lost and Terra overrun. He has to stay there, pinning him in place, as the traitors fight their way to Terra. Eventually the Emperor will have to leave the Golden Throne to confront Horus while the Sigillite takes his place and is consumed by the task of maintaining the crumbling psychic barriers something which is alluded to in The Sigillite. *which is basically a mechanism for maintaining the human built sections of the Webway as the Emperor constructs a link to the Eldar Webway in his bid to free humanity from reliance on the vagaries of Warp Travel Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/272503-the-sigillite/#findComment-3326126 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andystarscream Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 I loved it, but then again i really like all the audio drama's and audio books. It's made me excited about the war of the web way where before this i couldn't have cared less about it. The only thing i didn't really like were the bits with Hussan and his squad but ive found that to be the case in all the hh books with what i suppose you can call Human side stories Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/272503-the-sigillite/#findComment-3326536 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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