AngelVeto Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 This isn't a compare the new to the old thread, just somewhere all the old timers can sit back and talk about "the good old days" that were more like the Great Depression... But we made it through and can now look back on it fondly. Me? I miss everyone and your uncle Robert having rights of battle and fearless bikes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaplain Lucifer Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 Me , I miss nothing. Last Codex was a poor excuse for a Codex with no redeeming points whatsoever.There is really nothing I miss about it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Semper Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 I agree with Chaplain Lucifer. New Codex is better on every level - simple as that. I also think that the previous Codex was a forgettable affair - more so than 3rd ed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WatchCaptainAzrael Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 WS5 across the board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onisuzume Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 What I miss... Hm... Ah, being able to field 31 terminators at 1.5k points. Other than that, its improvements across the board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngelVeto Posted March 9, 2013 Author Share Posted March 9, 2013 There is no doubt that this codex is far superior. I love it. But there were a few things I enjoyed about our previous version. Like scoring command squads, or termies as troops and/or elite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facmanpob Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 I miss the lack of typos ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Immolator Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 Nothing really. The only thing is the company master loosing rights but ill live with it. Gives me an excuse to paint azzy too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boniface Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 I miss sapphon. I dont think he's been in codex since joined angels of death. I don't remember if he was good or not now I was like 8-10 at the time. I think. I also miss being able to give masters bikes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millicant Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 I also miss fearless bikes. And rites of battle for 4 of the HQ's was really nice. I miss both of those dearly. Aside from that the new codex is great and I won't be looking back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interrogator Stobz Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 I miss Asmodai ;) when he had no rules you were required to make him good, now he is really not quite here. And LOLZ fmp; I too so miss proofreaders :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Avoghai Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 Huh? There was another codex between the v3 leaflet (and its update) and the current one ? Really? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
march10k Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 Wow...bitter much? I miss: Fearless bikes (I'd rather have cheaper stubborn ones, of course!) Belial being cheap enough that you could take him to unlock termies, then treat him as a pain sponge to keep your scoring termies kicking (I do like the current version better) Rites of Battle. My favorite HQ was a company master with nothing but a power sword. This one makes company masters completely worthless. Free multimeltas on my crusaders. (I'd rather have the deathwing upgrade for 30 points than the free MM, though!) elite scouts...at least until they took away their ability to charge off the board edge...but 80 points got you 16 MEQ-quality attacks anywhere within 12" of the edge, more than enough to glance a tank to death or swing a melee that you were losing. The threat alone did wonders to compress the enemy to the center, where it was easier to hunt them down with a limited number of expensive terminator squads. On balance, the last codex stank, but pretending that every last detail of this current one is vastly superior is dishonest or deluded. If nothing else, the company master nerf is not balanced by any improvements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlauG Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 Fearless Bikes and scoring Deathwing Command Squads are the main thing I miss. And march10k, the current bikes are cheaper than their previous Fearless counterparts. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
march10k Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 Glaug...I believe I mentioned that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elphilo Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 There is no doubt that this codex is far superior. I love it. But there were a few things I enjoyed about our previous version. Like scoring command squads, or termies as troops and/or elite This is pretty much all I miss. Though I much prefer our current codex to the last :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blank05 Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 I miss my chaplain having litanies of hate. Hatred is good and all but c'mon. Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EPK Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 DW apothecary with a CC weapon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avon Rekaes Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 Mainly I miss Rites of Battle on the Company Master, and the Deathwing Apothecary able to have a power or chain fist (Modeled mine with a chainfist/narthecium combo thing) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
march10k Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 DW apothecary with a CC weapon. Oooh! This! I refuse to rip the arm off of my DIY apothecary. We'll just unplug the powerfist...with curses towards GW! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffJedi Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 Some of the Fluff was written better. The new unit entries all follow the same carbon copy style. It's really noticeable when you read them back to back. For example "It was Belial that.. and defended..." at the end of every paragraph. The older codex had quotes like "Samuel is a true Angel of Death..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Avoghai Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 On balance, the last codex stank, but pretending that every last detail of this current one is vastly superior is dishonest or deluded. If nothing else, the company master nerf is not balanced by any improvements. Well, Ld 10 when half of your army (or more) is Fearless and the other part is L9 due to a compulsory vet sgt is not what I call a bonus... I do recognize that it's hard to find a place/role for the company master, but I think it's the same for every SM codex. At least they should have limitated the Mace of Redemption to "Master only", this could have give an advantage of the Company Master over chaplain. But this is more a comparison between entries from the same codex thant comparison between the 2 codex. I don't miss Fearless bikes because the were Expensive and non flexible (I love fielding 4 in outflank without vet sgt waaaaay funnier) I don't miss Belial because I prefer play a character that has a chance to do something. For the Narthecium, that's something I don't understand but more in a GK/DA comparison... Why the hell, the GK replace the Storm Bolter and we replace the PF?... o_O Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Immolator Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 Wow...bitter much? On balance, the last codex stank, but pretending that every last detail of this current one is vastly superior is dishonest or deluded. If nothing else, the company master nerf is not balanced by any improvements. I guess you also miss the cap that it inflicted upon you for having min/max squads only too? No one pretends that everything is better but when you have 100 better points pro vs 10 against, then sorry but yeah in summary every last detail is enormusly superior (or to put in slang from the 80s and those who remember the quote, you get an internet cookie GINORMOUS). Its good to be deluded, more fun on this side cross over Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlauG Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 Glaug...I believe I mentioned that? It wasn't super clear from your phrasing, it made it seem like you wished that they were Stubborn and cheaper instead of the Fearless which you miss... Which they indeed are! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJames70 Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 I want my Sgt. Naaman back! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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