Hammer and Anvil Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 I apologize if this question has already been asked. I'm about to start building a Deathwing army with the new Dark Angels codex and I was wondering if it was possible to have Sergeants running around with Assault Cannons and Power Swords. It would be nice if they could, as you would get Precision Shots with the most important weapon in your squad. But is it possible? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Furyou Miko Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 If the codex says "One model in the squad", then yes. If the codex says "One other model" after the Sergeant options, or if the codex says "One Deathwind Terminator" then no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s12demon Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 Just to confirm the codex says " one deathwing terminator" the sergeant technically isnt a 'deathwing terminator' but a 'Deathwing terminator sergeant' so cant take the Assault cannon or any other heavy weapon for that matter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammer and Anvil Posted March 9, 2013 Author Share Posted March 9, 2013 Well shucks. Thanks for clearing that up for me guys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Res Ipsa Loquitur Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 Can't be a Deathwing Terminator Sergeant without being a Deathwing Terminator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Tyler Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 Yes, but from a rules perspective they are two different profiles and options apply to either "any (other) model" or to a specific profile. The assault cannon is not available to the Deathwing Terminator Sergeant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Immolator Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 Can't be a Deathwing Terminator Sergeant without being a Deathwing Terminator. One is a character and the other is not, they also as Brother Tyler said are given different profiles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
march10k Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 Some of the options (like lightning claws) are available to "any model," while others are only available to "one deathwing terminator." If the sergeant could have those options, it would say "one model" not "one deathwing terminator." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJames70 Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 There is enough strange stuff to go around in this codex. Did anyone notice that although the box and instructions of the models show a sergeant with power sword in the Deathwing command squad, the squad consists of '5 Deathwing Terminators'. There is no option to make one of them a sarge (not that it matters, profile wise), nor is there any option to change one of the power fists to a power sword even. Thus, the squad as built on its box depicts an illegal model with its power sword armed sergeant! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jehoel Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 Try looking at the Deathwing Terminator Squad entry in the codex on page 99 again. The Sergeant comes with a power sword. The box cover is correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortysl Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 Try looking at the Deathwing Terminator Squad entry in the codex on page 99 again. The Sergeant comes with a power sword. The box cover is correct. That's not what he said. He was referring to the illustration of the Deathwing Command Squad on the box. The picture does depict a Deathwing Sergeant as part of a Deathwing Commmand Squad, which isn't possible using the Deathwing Command Squad entry in the Dark Angels codex. He's absolutely right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jehoel Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 Ya, I saw that right after I posted, but had to step out so couldn't edit a fix in. The Deathwing Command Squad box cover shows a Champion and a sergeant, but the kit is for Terminator squads, Command squads, and Knights squads. So they were just trying to show more options. Failure of the guys setting up the cover photo, I'd say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[TA]Typher Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 Try looking at the Deathwing Terminator Squad entry in the codex on page 99 again. The Sergeant comes with a power sword. The box cover is correct. That's not what he said. He was referring to the illustration of the Deathwing Command Squad on the box. The picture does depict a Deathwing Sergeant as part of a Deathwing Commmand Squad, which isn't possible using the Deathwing Command Squad entry in the Dark Angels codex. He's absolutely right. The box is neither the rulebook or the codex. Using it as an example is like using a HH novel to determine how I can equip my troops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Immolator Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 Try looking at the Deathwing Terminator Squad entry in the codex on page 99 again. The Sergeant comes with a power sword. The box cover is correct. That's not what he said. He was referring to the illustration of the Deathwing Command Squad on the box. The picture does depict a Deathwing Sergeant as part of a Deathwing Commmand Squad, which isn't possible using the Deathwing Command Squad entry in the Dark Angels codex. He's absolutely right. The box is neither the rulebook or the codex. Using it as an example is like using a HH novel to determine how I can equip my troops. True! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJames70 Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 Try looking at the Deathwing Terminator Squad entry in the codex on page 99 again. The Sergeant comes with a power sword. The box cover is correct. That's not what he said. He was referring to the illustration of the Deathwing Command Squad on the box. The picture does depict a Deathwing Sergeant as part of a Deathwing Commmand Squad, which isn't possible using the Deathwing Command Squad entry in the Dark Angels codex. He's absolutely right. The box is neither the rulebook or the codex. Using it as an example is like using a HH novel to determine how I can equip my troops. It doesn't do them any good to show incorrect things on their box when the rules are full enough of holes already. Also, the instructions inside the box direct you to make a Sergeant for the command squad, too. So there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[TA]Typher Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 Try looking at the Deathwing Terminator Squad entry in the codex on page 99 again. The Sergeant comes with a power sword. The box cover is correct. That's not what he said. He was referring to the illustration of the Deathwing Command Squad on the box. The picture does depict a Deathwing Sergeant as part of a Deathwing Commmand Squad, which isn't possible using the Deathwing Command Squad entry in the Dark Angels codex. He's absolutely right.The box is neither the rulebook or the codex. Using it as an example is like using a HH novel to determine how I can equip my troops.It doesn't do them any good to show incorrect things on their box when the rules are full enough of holes already. Also, the instructions inside the box direct you to make a Sergeant for the command squad, too. So there! The Box is not the rule book or the Codex. Do you play the game and refer to the box your Dreadnought came in or to the rule book? If you wanted to argue that the box was printed with incorrect information that would be more correct then saying that the Box dictates the rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puck Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 one other thing i noticed about the DW box: the sergeant and the DW champion both have the same chest piece...there is only one of those chest pieces in the kit so the squad as pictured on the front of the DW box can not be made from the contents of just one of the DW boxes...I found that a little in bad form when I noticed it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJames70 Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 I hardly claimed the box superior to the rules or codex. But the box is called "Deathwing Command Squad", not 'Some Deathwing Guys'. All I said was that the box picture (given the name of the set, I think it is very reasonable to assume it is supposed to be a picture of a command squad) and instructions do not match the codex; there is no way in the codex to have a Sgt. or power sword in the command squad. That is all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rik Lightstar Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 The boxes all have the standard "picture and contents may differ" type disclaimer, they reuse models and images, not REALLY a big deal. Rik Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cypher371 Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 at least it shows what's in the box unlike the storm bolter on the box for the dark angels veteran squad.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Upstartes Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 Obviously, that guy with the sword in the command squad is a Company Master in terminator armor, and the team is continuing to do battle after one of the five terminators in the command squad fell to enemy fire. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Immolator Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 Obviously, that guy with the sword in the command squad is a Company Master in terminator armor, and the team is continuing to do battle after one of the five terminators in the command squad fell to enemy fire. Just who thought of the damn bunny ears anyway? Thats the second incarnation... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Chaplain Lucifer Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 Ok, this is delved into silliness and OP question is clarified so... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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