SamWasKing Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 A friend and I recently had a coversation about the Space Wolves a a faction interacts with the High Lords of Terra. The main point of it was, would the Space Wolves kill innocent civilians at the command of the high-lords if they disagreed with the principal of it? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/272593-how-loyal-are-the-wolves-to-the-imperium/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llagos_Tyrant Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 Nope. Just look at how they reacted after the First War of Armageddon. They literally fought the Grey Knights, Inquisition and the Red Hunters (Astartes Chapter) because the Inquisition ordered the civilian and guardsmen survivors of the war to be sterilized and conscripted into labour camps. I don't see any way they would agree to killing innocents unless they were tricked - but then they aren't really agreeing. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/272593-how-loyal-are-the-wolves-to-the-imperium/#findComment-3325061 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jester262 Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 Nope. Just look at how they reacted after the First War of Armageddon. They literally fought the Grey Knights, Inquisition and the Red Hunters (Astartes Chapter) because the Inquisition ordered the civilian and guardsmen survivors of the war to be sterilized and conscripted into labour camps. I don't see any way they would agree to killing innocents unless they were tricked - but then they aren't really agreeing. agreed. There's no way a Wolf would kill an inocent of their own accord Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/272593-how-loyal-are-the-wolves-to-the-imperium/#findComment-3325079 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squark Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 Depends on the situation. I can see Wolf Lords resorting to Exterminatus when there's no other choice, or stuff like that. But the Space Wolves are probably only behind the Salamanders and maybe a handful of others if you rank chapters in terms of their devotion to protecting civilians. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/272593-how-loyal-are-the-wolves-to-the-imperium/#findComment-3325096 Share on other sites More sharing options...
playedsincedaemonhunters Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 Read Emperors Gift. It will end this conversation in its tracks.... a which wolf scouts have been following since it started. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/272593-how-loyal-are-the-wolves-to-the-imperium/#findComment-3325117 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamWasKing Posted March 11, 2013 Author Share Posted March 11, 2013 Read Emperors Gift. It will end this conversation in its tracks.... a which wolf scouts have been following since it started. Why what happens? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/272593-how-loyal-are-the-wolves-to-the-imperium/#findComment-3325147 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bjorn Firewalker Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 Spoilers here Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/272593-how-loyal-are-the-wolves-to-the-imperium/#findComment-3325152 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamWasKing Posted March 11, 2013 Author Share Posted March 11, 2013 Aside from killing civilians, is it true that the great wolf acts under orders from inquisitors in general? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/272593-how-loyal-are-the-wolves-to-the-imperium/#findComment-3325154 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunder_god Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 The Great Wolf is the High King of Fenris. And after Armageddon, we will feast on the black iron bones (as Bjorn put it) of any Inquisitorial ship that comes near Fenris. The Wolves will generally go out their way to make life miserable for the Inquisition... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/272593-how-loyal-are-the-wolves-to-the-imperium/#findComment-3325204 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blacksad Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 the wolves are loyal to the empire of men the wolves are loyal to the teachings of Russ the wolves are loyal to the teachings of the emperor the wolves are loyal to humanity the wolves are IN NO WAY loyal to the inquisition Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/272593-how-loyal-are-the-wolves-to-the-imperium/#findComment-3325323 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshall Bretton Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 the wolves have no loyalty to the inquisition or the high lords of terra, they serve the emperor and russ, no one else Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/272593-how-loyal-are-the-wolves-to-the-imperium/#findComment-3325336 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamWasKing Posted March 11, 2013 Author Share Posted March 11, 2013 But they still send wolves to the deathwatch and they have the wolf blades so they must have some interest in protecting Terra. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/272593-how-loyal-are-the-wolves-to-the-imperium/#findComment-3325380 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshall Bretton Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 deathwatch is a voluntary thing, no one orders them to send people, they choose to send them. and the wolf blades are because of an ancient pact with house belisarius, its not about protecting terra, its about protecting the navigators house itself but they do have an interest in protecting terra, that is where the emperor is after all Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/272593-how-loyal-are-the-wolves-to-the-imperium/#findComment-3325386 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozeryk_Sleipnijr Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 One could say that the Wolves now have individual Inquisitors who mortal enemies. Combined with the problems with the ecclesiastes the Wolves have to be very wary of the Imperium nowadays. All this happned becaue they are loyal to human beings and not their insitutions. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/272593-how-loyal-are-the-wolves-to-the-imperium/#findComment-3325400 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cate Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 The wolves are loyal the Emperor, Terra and the Imperium, I believe they have problems with individuals who are not, i.e they who work for their own gain, who work against the original ideas the Emperor had, like the Ecclesiarchy (who have much to say in the Lords of Terra), the inquisition (not all factions if you start to dig deep into the inquistion.) When it comes to the Death Watch, the wolves have ancient pacts with them and as long as the Death watch keep their part I wouldn't believe that the wolves would break their part, an oath is an oath. I assume the same goes with the Wolf blades on Terra. Having ears inside an organisation who you detest might also be a reason for Death watch Space wolves. :) I do believe that the wolves are prepared to work with individual Inquisitors who have proven their loyalty to the true Imperial cause, as the wolves sees it), but it would take tremendous work from the Inquisitors part. I also see that individual Jarls might work with some inquisitors more easily than Logan, but they would still be a bit suspicious with them. /C Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/272593-how-loyal-are-the-wolves-to-the-imperium/#findComment-3325401 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wulfebane Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 The Wolves are one of the few chapters with a connection to the Imperium prior to the Golden Throne due to their oldest brother and one of the eldest in the Imperium - Bjorn. When they have conflicts as deep as WWRD? (What Would Russ Do), they wake Bjorn's rusted butt up and have him regale them with the morals and directions left to them by Russ and the Emperor; knowledge of a time prior to the corruption of the Inquisition and Ecclesiarchy. As to the Deathwatch, the above comments are plausible. I believe that the Wolves have faith in the principles behind DW, dealing with all things xenos in order to eradicate them. The DW is bigger than any one Inquisitorial sect can control without another sect interfering, since the chapter is the whole Ordo Xenos' baby, so the ideals and practices are possibly preserved by this, even if individual kill teams might be compromised in moralities. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/272593-how-loyal-are-the-wolves-to-the-imperium/#findComment-3325460 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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