skeletoro Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 I kinda like the idea of mixing some chain axes into my grey hunters squads. This didn't use to be a big deal. But now, we cannot actually take chain axes per the rules (as chain axes are user str, AP4 rather than AP- in 6th, correct?) but I figure, given that we CANNOT take them, then it should be OK to tell your opponent that all "chain" weapons are chain swords (i.e. just a basic close combat attack). Do you think it would be kosher at tournaments to do this? After all, SW don't HAVE chain axes. The only two potential sources of confusion that I can envisage are 1) If you use frost axes - you need to make them distinct to chain axes (but the same problem already existed for swords) 2) If you have cataphractii terminators - their axes look more like chain axes than power axes! I think for simplicity I'd just make sure that all frost weapons look more like power weapons and wouldn't use the chain "power axe" bitz on my terminators. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/272881-chain-axes-acceptable-proxy-for-a-chain-sword/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wulfebane Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 axe vs sword vs spear, etc is only a factor for power weapons and frost/master-crafted weapons. Chainswords/axes are simply "close-combat weapons" and have no other stats than granting a +1 attack when equipped with two. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/272881-chain-axes-acceptable-proxy-for-a-chain-sword/#findComment-3329602 Share on other sites More sharing options...
skeletoro Posted March 17, 2013 Author Share Posted March 17, 2013 I'm pretty sure that's 5th ed - in 6th, "chain swords" have an entry in the BRB (but they do have the "close-combat weapons" stat line you described - @user str, AP-) and I believe that there's a separate entry for chain axes in the chaos marines codex (which I haven't read yet) making them @user str, AP4. I may be wrong about chain axes though. I have yet to actually read the CSM dex. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/272881-chain-axes-acceptable-proxy-for-a-chain-sword/#findComment-3329624 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wulfebane Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 Don't know why you're looking it up in the CSM. That's not the SW codex. CSM Khornites get chainaxes as an upgrade option with an AP4 stat at user strength. No one else gets this AP4 incarnation of chainaxes, so it will revert to a standard close combat weapon per usual til it is either errata'd we get a new codex with our own axes. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/272881-chain-axes-acceptable-proxy-for-a-chain-sword/#findComment-3329630 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimtooth Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 Has no bearing in 6th edition unless you are playing Heresy rules. There is no difference between chain axes or chainswords in a Space Wolves army. One of my Mark of the Wulfen used to dual weild two as a matter of fact. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/272881-chain-axes-acceptable-proxy-for-a-chain-sword/#findComment-3330139 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostwolfalpha Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 I doubt anyone would complain and my local gw would be fine with it. I think they look awesome on SW, especially TWC. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/272881-chain-axes-acceptable-proxy-for-a-chain-sword/#findComment-3330669 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarl Deathwolf Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 I've already done it and nobody has looked at them funny yet. I say go for it, wolf brother. Let the blood flow! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/272881-chain-axes-acceptable-proxy-for-a-chain-sword/#findComment-3330695 Share on other sites More sharing options...
minigun762 Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 I think it would only matter in a CSM list because there is an actual rule difference between the two. As a mangy space pup, you should be fine. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/272881-chain-axes-acceptable-proxy-for-a-chain-sword/#findComment-3330709 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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