Captain Idaho Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 I'm fast becoming enraptured by the corruption of Chaos and really thinking about getting me a Daemons army in the summer. Of course this depends on getting a job soon after my redundancy but that's besides the point of this thread. Now, I really like the Keeper of other people's private gossip, and looking at what you get for the points is very competitive. The Keeperis no slouch in assault and with 2 Greater Awards can become very survivable. To increase his/her/it's tenacity we also have the speed to consider; other creatures pay for the wings yet Keepers come in cheaper but only slightly slower (as a turn two or three charge is still possible and that's directly comparable to the likely time flying MCs will hit too). Another factor I'm really digging about Keepers is the cheaper starting cost means you can boost it to Level 3 and get some decent powers on the Telepathy table. Imagine an invisible unit of Daemonettes or the Keeper itself! So what do other people think about this Greater Daemon? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/272886-the-keeper-of-secrets-unsung-horror/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seahawk Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 Use it all time and love it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/272886-the-keeper-of-secrets-unsung-horror/#findComment-3329752 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Idaho Posted March 17, 2013 Author Share Posted March 17, 2013 I knew you'd be on my wave length! How do you find his psychic trickery? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/272886-the-keeper-of-secrets-unsung-horror/#findComment-3329759 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seahawk Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 I usually just hope for Acquiescence, really. All of the shooting powers aren't good for it except in choice situations; it should be running most of the time. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/272886-the-keeper-of-secrets-unsung-horror/#findComment-3329836 Share on other sites More sharing options...
minigun762 Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 I really like the idea of the value priced greater daemon but when I start to look at using those points for heralds instead, the issue gets a bit more cloudy. With WS & I7, the herald is going to go before most units and hit them on 3's just like the KoS. Give them the greater etherblade and you're still hitting at S5 AP2 compared to S6 AP2. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/272886-the-keeper-of-secrets-unsung-horror/#findComment-3330056 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Idaho Posted March 18, 2013 Author Share Posted March 18, 2013 True but they're just so squishy compared to the Greater Daemon! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/272886-the-keeper-of-secrets-unsung-horror/#findComment-3330160 Share on other sites More sharing options...
the jeske Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 I dont know but a non flying non shroud low T MC seems kind a less resilient then a herald siting inside a seeker or nette unit . Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/272886-the-keeper-of-secrets-unsung-horror/#findComment-3330192 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Idaho Posted March 18, 2013 Author Share Posted March 18, 2013 Aside from Greater Rewards increasing survivability, the speed of a Keeper is pretty rocking. Of course hiding in a unit is good but I meant in challenges etc. Of course a Herald can become tougher in a lovely little unit so I guess you're right. I still want a Keeper. I'll just get a Herald or two as well! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/272886-the-keeper-of-secrets-unsung-horror/#findComment-3330205 Share on other sites More sharing options...
minigun762 Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 Ignoring the fluff implications, pairing a KoS with Skarbrand could be fun. If you can use the rest of your army to tie up shooting, these two could stomp most units. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/272886-the-keeper-of-secrets-unsung-horror/#findComment-3330301 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rakarsis Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 Keeper also allows you to take Daemon Princes of Slaanesh in the heavy slots with wings and the 2D6 whip of despair (via greater reward) as an anti-everything option. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/272886-the-keeper-of-secrets-unsung-horror/#findComment-3330920 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Idaho Posted March 19, 2013 Author Share Posted March 19, 2013 Yes one of the hidden gems if Daemon Princes is you can still get Heralds if a Greater Daemon is chosen. Great force multiplier! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/272886-the-keeper-of-secrets-unsung-horror/#findComment-3330924 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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