Kugath with fate weaver

[Khaines wrath]

Just looking through some possible combinations and I thought of how effective fate weaver would be providing fire being hard to hit and helping kugath be even more impossible to kill( re-roll invulnerability saves and feel no pain) whilst supporting more babie nurglings and throwing ap2 large blasts and heavy armour whil fate weaver takes hordes with his warp fire or tanks with the bolt

If I was to do this what troops should I take?

Ps should I also run some soul grinders and some flamer or hounds what u guys think

[Iron Sage]

Just looking through some possible combinations and I thought of how effective fate weaver would be providing fire being hard to hit and helping kugath be even more impossible to kill( re-roll invulnerability saves and feel no pain) whilst supporting more babie nurglings and throwing ap2 large blasts and heavy armour whil fate weaver takes hordes with his warp fire or tanks with the bolt

If I was to do this what troops should I take?

Ps should I also run some soul grinders and some flamer or hounds what u guys think

I would rather use Kairos for other units including MCs, where he actually makes a big difference. Kugath doesn`t need help, unless your opponent is lucky or you happen to roll extraordinarilly bad dice (which happens). IMO, don`t plan on making Kugath even more tough, since he wil rarely need it, when the fact is that Kairos is certainly going to be of much greater use aiding an army list in general than he would be helping the toughest pest beast in the dex.

 

In addition, Kugath and Kairos combined is of course 560 points or so, which means that the rest of your army better have units that would be greatly helped by those two characters, since below 2k,  you will not then have troops buffed with heralds inside them.

 

IMO, Kairos + LoC wielding divination W/Grimoire sounds fun despite lack of heralds. Kugath + Kairos doesn`t sound like a particularly good fit to me. You see, in my opinion, if you have a Kairos and a LoC casting buffs on your units, lacking heralds will be far, far less stress. Kairos alone however (he doesn`t have any sort of synergy with a GUO, but a LoC can bless him and so on), is not incredibly trustworthy (I wouldn`t rely on him, as he can probably go down suprisingly fast).

 

In short, no, I dont think Kairos and Kugath below 2K is a good idea at all. Kairos and LoC? Yes, now that is different ;)

[Khaines wrath]

 

 

 

Just looking through some possible combinations and I thought of how effective fate weaver would be providing fire being hard to hit and helping kugath be even more impossible to kill( re-roll invulnerability saves and feel no pain) whilst supporting more babie nurglings and throwing ap2 large blasts and heavy armour whil fate weaver takes hordes with his warp fire or tanks with the bolt

If I was to do this what troops should I take?

Ps should I also run some soul grinders and some flamer or hounds what u guys think

I would rather use Kairos for other units including MCs, where he actually makes a big difference. Kugath doesn`t need help, unless your opponent is lucky or you happen to roll extraordinarilly bad dice (which happens). IMO, don`t plan on making Kugath even more tough, since he wil rarely need it, when the fact is that Kairos is certainly going to be of much greater use aiding an army list in general than he would be helping the toughest pest beast in the dex.

 

In addition, Kugath and Kairos combined is of course 560 points or so, which means that the rest of your army better have units that would be greatly helped by those two characters, since below 2k, you will not then have troops buffed with heralds inside them.

 

IMO, Kairos + LoC wielding divination W/Grimoire sounds fun despite lack of heralds. Kugath + Kairos doesn`t sound like a particularly good fit to me. You see, in my opinion, if you have a Kairos and a LoC casting buffs on your units, lacking heralds will be far, far less stress. Kairos alone however (he doesn`t have any sort of synergy with a GUO, but a LoC can bless him and so on), is not incredibly trustworthy (I wouldn`t rely on him, as he can probably go down suprisingly fast).

 

In short, no, I dont think Kairos and Kugath below 2K is a good idea at all. Kairos and LoC? Yes, now that is different ;)

Yeah kairos goes down fast but usually packs up first

Just a suggestion

oh and have you got new codex did u buy it or download it

I just didn't understand how kugath goes by himself as he only has a 4+ and feel no pain is5+ now

And don't forget he will die quickly against focus fire

 

Ps what is points and rules for skarbrand now

[Iron Sage]

Just looking through some possible combinations and I thought of how effective fate weaver would be providing fire being hard to hit and helping kugath be even more impossible to kill( re-roll invulnerability saves and feel no pain) whilst supporting more babie nurglings and throwing ap2 large blasts and heavy armour whil fate weaver takes hordes with his warp fire or tanks with the bolt

If I was to do this what troops should I take?

Ps should I also run some soul grinders and some flamer or hounds what u guys think

I would rather use Kairos for other units including MCs, where he actually makes a big difference. Kugath doesn`t need help, unless your opponent is lucky or you happen to roll extraordinarilly bad dice (which happens). IMO, don`t plan on making Kugath even more tough, since he wil rarely need it, when the fact is that Kairos is certainly going to be of much greater use aiding an army list in general than he would be helping the toughest pest beast in the dex.

In addition, Kugath and Kairos combined is of course 560 points or so, which means that the rest of your army better have units that would be greatly helped by those two characters, since below 2k, you will not then have troops buffed with heralds inside them.

IMO, Kairos + LoC wielding divination W/Grimoire sounds fun despite lack of heralds. Kugath + Kairos doesn`t sound like a particularly good fit to me. You see, in my opinion, if you have a Kairos and a LoC casting buffs on your units, lacking heralds will be far, far less stress. Kairos alone however (he doesn`t have any sort of synergy with a GUO, but a LoC can bless him and so on), is not incredibly trustworthy (I wouldn`t rely on him, as he can probably go down suprisingly fast).

In short, no, I dont think Kairos and Kugath below 2K is a good idea at all. Kairos and LoC? Yes, now that is different

Yeah kairos goes down fast but usually packs up first

Just a suggestion

oh and have you got new codex did u buy it or download it

I just didn't understand how kugath goes by himself as he only has a 4+ and feel no pain is5+ now

And don't forget he will die quickly against focus fire

Let me put it this way: I have payed for the daemon dex, but not yet recieved it in the mail, but I still have a copy for reference.

Oh, and I understand the dakka plan and all, but IMO Kairos will be more useful in other lists.

As for Kugath,although your quite correct that if the enemy chooses to focus fire their entire army on him alone (that is not a bad thing for you), then he may die in 1-3 turns as fate (read luck) dictates, you should however note carefully his Shrouded rule (all Nurgle daemons have the Shrouded ruled in case you dont have the book), and the implications of it during a game. He is really only vulnarable to certain races (read Grey Knights and other specialists) in HtH combat, in addition to not being overtly fond of "Ignores Cover" weapons. However, how many ranged "Ignores Cover" weapons does your opponents usualy throw at you during a single turn?

In short, in my opinion, both HQ (Kairos and Kugath) are awesome, or at least very good, but I doubt their vaule more if you combine them together below 2K points.

[Khaines wrath]

So how about skarbrand is he any good I heard he is 25pts cheaper than a 250 pt bloodthirster because of wingless