Olis Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 Nice thread, brother - I like the coming together of disparate parts from differing companies to give this army a unique appearance and feel. Keep up the good work. :tu: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/273142-409th-nocturnium-regiment-of-volunteers-a-plog/page/3/#findComment-3535827 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kierdale Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 Excellent work! Really characterful models and posing. The different colours for units are fine, and that Aegis is perfect for your army! Lastly, I really like the control cable for the rapier snaking off the weapon's base and onto that crewman's. even though it's cut, it feels seemless. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/273142-409th-nocturnium-regiment-of-volunteers-a-plog/page/3/#findComment-3536098 Share on other sites More sharing options...
walter h Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 Awesome, the army has a very civil war feel,and your choice of platoon as regiment fits very well and allows for the historic flow impressive, I salute you sir! I have to say that if I found myself on the other side of the table I'd be spending so much time geeking out ,and trying to figure out how and what parts , that I'd lose the match ,but I'd enjoy the experience ,lol. Keep going. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/273142-409th-nocturnium-regiment-of-volunteers-a-plog/page/3/#findComment-3536190 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorFish Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 That aegis line is brilliant, your army is really coming along :) Have you managed to start looking at your potential vehicle ideas yet? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/273142-409th-nocturnium-regiment-of-volunteers-a-plog/page/3/#findComment-3537188 Share on other sites More sharing options...
walter h Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 I'm wondering as well. The dystopian,stuff had a great look. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/273142-409th-nocturnium-regiment-of-volunteers-a-plog/page/3/#findComment-3537368 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mustardParty Posted December 4, 2013 Author Share Posted December 4, 2013 Hey Guys,Thanks for the encouraging words! I'm still debating on how to handle armor exactly. I did put in for a purchase of a pair of those Dystopian Legion APC's - I think their look is great for this army, and I think all the details will paint up nicely.As for battle tanks - I DO have a small brace of Leman Russ MBT's - about four. I'm debating if I want to incorporate these, or enlist more Dystopian Legion armor to the cause. On the one hand, they are very tightly tied to the overall army theme - on the other hand, all that cost - when I already have 4 bad boys that want to get in on the fight.Its not like the Nocturnium guard wouldn't have ANY LRBT's - they are an IG regiment after all.I may paint one of the Russ's up first and see how it looks next to everything else before I take the plunge on something else. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/273142-409th-nocturnium-regiment-of-volunteers-a-plog/page/3/#findComment-3537794 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hendrik Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 why not make an allied armoured company from another world? give it a distinct other paintsheme so it's clear they are off-worlders. the imperial guard is full of mixed regiments Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/273142-409th-nocturnium-regiment-of-volunteers-a-plog/page/3/#findComment-3537996 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorFish Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 That's a good idea hendrik, one that you could fall back on if all else fails. I reckon you should see what you can do with the kits. Even something as simple as modding the commander into a Nocturnium and painting the tank the same could go a long way. I saw somewhere a while ago (I can't remember exactly) someone did a Praetorian army with Russes and a Praetorian commander and paint job along with some barrel swaps made them a perfect fit. The battle cannon was from a WHFB Empire cannon and the heavy bolters looked like the rotating guns you've already used. It's not like you have to ye olde everything, a lascannon is still a fancy laser and you've already got a Rapier in and that looks fine. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/273142-409th-nocturnium-regiment-of-volunteers-a-plog/page/3/#findComment-3538082 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mustardParty Posted December 6, 2013 Author Share Posted December 6, 2013 why not make an allied armoured company from another world? give it a distinct other paintsheme so it's clear they are off-worlders. the imperial guard is full of mixed regiments That's not a bad idea! I hadn't thought about approaching it from that angle. I think I'll try and paint one up in Nocturnium colors first, to see how it looks, but I like the idea of a mixed formation. I have been trying to figure out how to handle plasma gunners. Vic doesn't make a plasma equivalent set of arms - but I have seen a fair few attempts a taking Cadian flamer arms and kit bashing plasma guns out of them. I found a great set of plasma guns from MadRobotMiniatures that I really like. They don't look like the standard GW plasma, but retain the distinct plasma'y feeling: http://i.imgur.com/qjZsXNR.jpg The end result: http://i.imgur.com/4rCNOOh.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/sps1Jzz.jpg Looks good - the googles look a little silly maybe, but I'll see what it looks like painted up. Also working on my sniper units right now. Here's a test model I'm cooking up: http://i.imgur.com/i9emtQf.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/9ONdbUP.jpg My snipers are going to be patterned off of the 1st and 2nd US Sharpshooter units: http://www.berdansharpshooters.com/dg1.jpg I don't plan to make an entire unit of them, at least not initially - just a few sharpshooters in sharpshooter battle dress seconded to various units - like a CCS, or a squad of veterans. In the Civil War a company of Berdan's sharpshooters would often be on detached duty acting as dedicated skirmishers for the brigade they were attached to. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/273142-409th-nocturnium-regiment-of-volunteers-a-plog/page/3/#findComment-3539769 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kierdale Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 Both the plasma gun and sniper look great. I can't see the other side of the plasma gun, but how about adding the plasma cartridge to the flamer body somewhere (the underside seems most logical)? At first I thought that scope looked cool but strangely long...then I saw that historical drawing and thought 'oh, they did look like that, huh?' :) How about making a SWS of them? Three snipers and the other three done up as spotters or normal riflemen to cover the snipers' backs? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/273142-409th-nocturnium-regiment-of-volunteers-a-plog/page/3/#findComment-3539802 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hendrik Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 if you want snipers ratlings are the best option. cheap, more accurate then SWS and a pain to remove from an objective! and if you make all the models couching size isn't a problem! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/273142-409th-nocturnium-regiment-of-volunteers-a-plog/page/3/#findComment-3540017 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorFish Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 They look good, I'd definitely use them as counts-as Ratlings as hendrik said as you get a lot more sniper rifles in as better BS which is what you need to make them more effective. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/273142-409th-nocturnium-regiment-of-volunteers-a-plog/page/3/#findComment-3541448 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mustardParty Posted December 10, 2013 Author Share Posted December 10, 2013 Nice guys, Ratlings are a good idea for counts-as, and pretty easy to convert. I do like the idea of SWS though, just for the conversion possibilities, even if its not so hot on the tabletop. I worked up another plasma gunner with a different set of arms and I'm honestly a lot happier with it: http://i.imgur.com/sjcjmE1.jpg Feels more natural, I like that the weapon is shouldered. Got one of the Dystopian Legion APC's in, and I have to say I'm pretty happy with it. The parts are solid bricks of resin, with a few soft metal detail parts. The detail is fairly sharp, and overall the parts feel pretty quality in the hand, they don't feel cheapy! I was debating whether to use the turret mounted weapon that comes with the kit or to use some 40K kit and keep things consistent: http://i.imgur.com/xjVeN9j.jpg http://i.imgur.com/hgpUpgF.jpg I think in the end I like the disambiguation that the multi-laser provides. Next, I'm not sure how to handle the hull mounted heavy bolter. I thought about using a cut down version and replace one of the head light: http://i.imgur.com/Ur09gS5.jpg Or, I could run a heavy bolter bolted to the hull: http://i.imgur.com/aEMBwDt.jpg OR, I could use a slick piece of kit from Col. Gravis' kickstarter that I backed. The steampunk styled heavy weapon carriages he cooked are amazing, and I plan to use them for my LasCannon heavy weapon teams. But they came with all kinds of options, including a gatling gun mount: http://i.imgur.com/RPuzqKv.jpg I really like the gatling kit, but I feel like the first option looks the best - the other two options feel like, well they kind of feel like a big gun was glued to the hull. What do you guys think? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/273142-409th-nocturnium-regiment-of-volunteers-a-plog/page/3/#findComment-3542992 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hendrik Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 how about making a raised plasticard section like in option B, and mounting the gun from there? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/273142-409th-nocturnium-regiment-of-volunteers-a-plog/page/3/#findComment-3543108 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kierdale Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 I definitely think the multilaser barrel looks better than the white metal one, but as for the heavy bolter I don't think I can help: they all look good! I'm actually rather fond of the headlight-mounted one. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/273142-409th-nocturnium-regiment-of-volunteers-a-plog/page/3/#findComment-3543255 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorFish Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 I agree completely with Kier! Can't wait to see it painted up it's going to be a great fit for the army theme :) Can we see an army shot at some point soon too? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/273142-409th-nocturnium-regiment-of-volunteers-a-plog/page/3/#findComment-3543474 Share on other sites More sharing options...
walter h Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 I like the Gatling ,it fits with the theme.Wow the Dystopian ,fits so well.The plasma gunner also looks great,you got me wondering what you decided on for the armor. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/273142-409th-nocturnium-regiment-of-volunteers-a-plog/page/3/#findComment-3543712 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RADU LYKAN Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 i like the use of mad robot plasma guns, the whole plasma gun looks better than the flamer/plasma version in my opinion but the awkwardness of it coould aid in the lower tech feel? good to get a feel of the size of the dystopian stuff, look forward to seeing which option you choose Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/273142-409th-nocturnium-regiment-of-volunteers-a-plog/page/3/#findComment-3543753 Share on other sites More sharing options...
walter h Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 Military Channel Photo from this day, 1940: A Matilda II tank of the 7th Royal Tank Regiment in the Western Desert during the beginning of Operation Compass. I saw this tank and thought this might well fit in with the theme. Merry Christmas,and a Happy New Year. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/273142-409th-nocturnium-regiment-of-volunteers-a-plog/page/3/#findComment-3550632 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mustardParty Posted January 7, 2014 Author Share Posted January 7, 2014 Got a chance to slap some paint onto one of the Patriot APC's. Initially work the paint up to 70% of the 'Sky Blue' color of the infantry trousers, but I didn't not feel it had enough pop: http://i.imgur.com/RnHS7lx.jpg You can see it here with some riflemen. When painted up to the same intensity as the sky blue color I feel the overall effect is more successful: http://i.imgur.com/BH0XUZn.jpg Sorry for the quality of this round of pics, had to grab quickies with the cell phone cam. Here are some other angles: http://i.imgur.com/G9vUWWn.jpg http://i.imgur.com/0RHwA6P.jpg http://i.imgur.com/TnCJwry.jpg I've only done some light weathering attempts. To be honest painting vehicles is totally out of my comfort zone and I get pretty lost painting all those broad flat surfaces. I approached it in similar fashion to how I paint figures - multiple thin layers, moving up my shade scale in half color increments. I don't airbrush, so it's all brush painting for me, so vehicle painting takes somewhere next to forever, which is probably why I avoid it. I try to use my layering to create the effect of shading, but the transitions aren't really that smooth in a lot of places, especially around the rivets, where I'd like to create some depth. The viewport trim on these models was really tough for me to paint cleanly. I feel I need to go back with a steadier approach. Very difficult narrow little lips, I just had a lot of trouble with them. Also tried to update my dormant count-as Earth Shaker arty carriage: http://i.imgur.com/tBgZzOR.jpg I feel like the transition are smoother, just to create some tonal variation on the surface to make it look more interesting. The cannon portion I had done a while ago, with more of a drybrush approach. I want to use more of a layered approach for smoothing tones - I think. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/273142-409th-nocturnium-regiment-of-volunteers-a-plog/page/3/#findComment-3562832 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionofjudah Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 The tonal gradients are really well done! Camera pics have the transitions really smooth and even;) Love the earth shaker!! Did you build the kit? Think your guardsmen are great btw! Huzzah for the yanks Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/273142-409th-nocturnium-regiment-of-volunteers-a-plog/page/3/#findComment-3562872 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RolandTHTG Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 Looks realy good, especially the tractor-transport!I think the Basilisk would pop a little more if you added some brass/copper/steel to the tubes and bands like you did around the exaust of the transport. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/273142-409th-nocturnium-regiment-of-volunteers-a-plog/page/3/#findComment-3562994 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kierdale Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 Extremely good work! I wish I could do gradients like that! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/273142-409th-nocturnium-regiment-of-volunteers-a-plog/page/3/#findComment-3563098 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorFish Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 Brilliant! Fits in great with your theme and still clearly stands out as a Chimera counts-as, I think you should add more vehicles now. The weathering and shading looks good. As for painting them, it's the other way around for me as I'm good at vehicles but rubbish at details - the trick is to not just think bigger. Like you said all those larger flat surfaces are quite different, a larger flat brush and slow methodical strokes is what you need. Building up coats is good, as is going in the same direction so it's not really all that different. Think of the tank, understand the tank. Let the Omnissiah speak to you through it. I recommend you start painting lots of tanks right away so you can get comfortable with them... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/273142-409th-nocturnium-regiment-of-volunteers-a-plog/page/3/#findComment-3563381 Share on other sites More sharing options...
walter h Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 Coming together quite nice. Can't wait to see the style of tank. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/273142-409th-nocturnium-regiment-of-volunteers-a-plog/page/3/#findComment-3563663 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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