CrimsonFists333 Posted March 23, 2013 Share Posted March 23, 2013 If I equip my Vanguard with a jump pack and use the standard pistol/chainsword gear do I get, assuming they're charging and not using Heroic Intervention 2 attacks standard +1 for 2 CC weapons +1 for charge and a hammer of wrath attack do i get a total of 5 including the hammer of wrath? Thanks Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/273166-how-many-attacks-do-vanguard-get/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quixus Posted March 23, 2013 Share Posted March 23, 2013 Yup Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/273166-how-many-attacks-do-vanguard-get/#findComment-3334064 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Res Ipsa Loquitur Posted March 23, 2013 Share Posted March 23, 2013 For completeness I'd also like to point out that you only get the HoW attack if you're using the JPs to charge. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/273166-how-many-attacks-do-vanguard-get/#findComment-3334080 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrimsonFists333 Posted March 23, 2013 Author Share Posted March 23, 2013 thats nice, I know they're subject to being caught in the open but worth it to me if you keep them at 175pts and can take advantage of cover with reconcile moves. maybe use Heroic Intervention to go after a flanking or lone unit but to keep them alive just deepstrike them deep behind cover Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/273166-how-many-attacks-do-vanguard-get/#findComment-3334087 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azash Posted March 23, 2013 Share Posted March 23, 2013 Also you roll the HoW attacks at Initiative step 10. So you wouldn't be rolling all 5 attacks for each model at the same time. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/273166-how-many-attacks-do-vanguard-get/#findComment-3334091 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Res Ipsa Loquitur Posted March 23, 2013 Share Posted March 23, 2013 HI is near useless unless you're a Blood Angel. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/273166-how-many-attacks-do-vanguard-get/#findComment-3334094 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azash Posted March 23, 2013 Share Posted March 23, 2013 Also just doing some math hammer at 175 pts VV's will net you (including HoW) 20 attacks. At 172 pts a standard assault squad will net you (including HoW) 37 attacks. The only thing your getting form the VV's that your not getting from the regular assault marines is access to HoI (see Res Ipsa's comment) and the free power weapon on the sergeant. So that one 15 point pw is costing you 4 models and 17 attacks. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/273166-how-many-attacks-do-vanguard-get/#findComment-3334100 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrimsonFists333 Posted March 23, 2013 Author Share Posted March 23, 2013 Although i cant agree with Hoi being useless, i can agree with the extra attacks and wound allocation Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/273166-how-many-attacks-do-vanguard-get/#findComment-3334216 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Res Ipsa Loquitur Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 Near useless. It fails a significant amount of time even with only D6" scatter. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/273166-how-many-attacks-do-vanguard-get/#findComment-3334251 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 Eh, with 2d6 charge range I think thats less true than it used to be. In any case this is not the place to talk tactics eh? Other threads for that. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/273166-how-many-attacks-do-vanguard-get/#findComment-3334297 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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