Karack Blackstone Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 Hello All, I had a rather interesting thought recently. From what I can tell, Logan Grimnar may actually be Leman Russ, especially considering for every Space Wolves Codex I have read, Logan is always The Great Wolf, and he never seems to actually die or retire. As such, my hypothesis is that the best place to hide The Truth is in Plain Sight. Why would anyone outside the Vlka Fenryka actually look at someone they can see as the Person they are looking for in the first place...? Just a hypothesis/theory in progress. Thanks, Unknown. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/273583-an-interesting-hypothesis-query/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hfran Morkai Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 Well the codeci are all written in the same time frame really afaik anyway, there might be a few years of extra info here and there but the timeline is stabilized, just more events are added to the time line. Hence why Marneus Calgar, Dante and Azrael are still leaders of their chapter. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/273583-an-interesting-hypothesis-query/#findComment-3340536 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rift Blade Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 It's good thought & plausible but personally I don't think so. For some reason I think he is still in the Eye somewhere. Just what my gut tells me from everything I read. But you never know. Maybe someone knows something to link it together better?!? Thanks for sharing. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/273583-an-interesting-hypothesis-query/#findComment-3340574 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valerian Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 Agreed. For one, Logan isn't nearly big enough to be Leman, who was a giant of a man, even among the other Primarchs. Additionally, we know that Ulrik remembers Logan from back when he was but a pup. Until GW decides to move the timeline forward again (which they are unlikely to do), Logan will always be the Great Wolf, because no in-universe time movement, means that will stay consistent, and isn't an indicator of immortality (if, indeed, the Primarchs are supposed to be immortal). Valerian Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/273583-an-interesting-hypothesis-query/#findComment-3340585 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wulfebane Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 Russ would never hide from his brothers like a coward and permit unnecessary Great Hunts to split his Wolves further from the pack. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/273583-an-interesting-hypothesis-query/#findComment-3340629 Share on other sites More sharing options...
maverik_girl Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 April Fools? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/273583-an-interesting-hypothesis-query/#findComment-3340637 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrotherCaptainArkhan Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 Bjorn would recognise him... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/273583-an-interesting-hypothesis-query/#findComment-3340709 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durfast Spiritwolf Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 April Fools? I think you caught that one little brother ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/273583-an-interesting-hypothesis-query/#findComment-3340901 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wulfebane Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 April Fools? I think you caught that one little brother ;) Sister. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/273583-an-interesting-hypothesis-query/#findComment-3340932 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durfast Spiritwolf Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 Oops, sorry. The gender on your profile is set to 'Male' Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/273583-an-interesting-hypothesis-query/#findComment-3340954 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blacksad Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 everyone knows Logan is actualy Robby, and the actual Grimnar is healing somewhere in statis. Guilliman wanted a legion of MEN, so he made the switch. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/273583-an-interesting-hypothesis-query/#findComment-3340966 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshall Bretton Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 lol thought this was a bit of an odd one :p on the timeline point though, the new tau codex appears to be moving their timeline forward, so no reason they won't do it for others Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/273583-an-interesting-hypothesis-query/#findComment-3341003 Share on other sites More sharing options...
maverik_girl Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 Oops, sorry. The gender on your profile is set to 'Male' LOL umm the name and picture wasn't a giveaway? and nope my profile does not say male. I had to recheck it just now since I haven't been back on regularly since the forum upgrade. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/273583-an-interesting-hypothesis-query/#findComment-3341026 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durfast Spiritwolf Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 Oops, sorry. The gender on your profile is set to 'Male' LOL umm the name and picture wasn't a giveaway? and nope my profile does not say male. I had to recheck it just now since I haven't been back on regularly since the forum upgrade. Sorry, I was looking at Wulfebane's post Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/273583-an-interesting-hypothesis-query/#findComment-3341045 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hfran Morkai Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 Well if it was an April Fool's it was a bit late, given it was at 9PM GMT, then again I guess there are time zones greater than -9GMT, or perhaps the culture of April Fools isn't the same elsewhere, but here you play the prank after noon you get beats. ;) Anyways, the Tau are an interesting one, each of the codeci have involved an expansion, but whether or not the timeline will expand beyond the 41st Millenium I don't know yet. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/273583-an-interesting-hypothesis-query/#findComment-3341046 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Way1and Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 everyone knows Logan is actualy Robby, and the actual Grimnar is healing somewhere in statis. Guilliman wanted a legion of MEN, so he made the switch. Nope. Not buying it. Everytime he sat down to feast he'd be funbling around looking for the cutlery and give himself away... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/273583-an-interesting-hypothesis-query/#findComment-3341328 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 Hes far to busy leading the 13nth company back from the eye of terror to bother with impersonating his grandson, Logain Grimnar. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/273583-an-interesting-hypothesis-query/#findComment-3341657 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blacksad Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 everyone knows Logan is actualy Robby, and the actual Grimnar is healing somewhere in statis. Guilliman wanted a legion of MEN, so he made the switch. Nope. Not buying it. Everytime he sat down to feast he'd be funbling around looking for the cutlery and give himself away... He's cheating. the digits to his TDA gloves contain cutlery. think inspector Gadget Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/273583-an-interesting-hypothesis-query/#findComment-3342171 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valerian Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 Hes far to busy leading the 13nth company back from the eye of terror to bother with impersonating his grandson, Logain Grimnar. Or, he's busy being dead ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/273583-an-interesting-hypothesis-query/#findComment-3342203 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarl Deathwolf Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 I've been under the assumption that Leman Russ is still looking for that magical tree that bears fruit which can heal the Allfather. Plus, trolling our Rune Priests by giving them visions for a Great Hunt. Truly, Russ is the greatest champion of all he does, even hide and seek. But he is definitely not dead. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/273583-an-interesting-hypothesis-query/#findComment-3342217 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valerian Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 I've been under the assumption that Leman Russ is still looking for that magical tree that bears fruit which can heal the Allfather. Plus, trolling our Rune Priests by giving them visions for a Great Hunt. Truly, Russ is the greatest champion of all he does, even hide and seek. But he is definitely not dead. Definitely not? That's a definitive statement that would require some proof, I would say. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/273583-an-interesting-hypothesis-query/#findComment-3342310 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blacksad Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 I met him at the pub yesterday, does that count? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/273583-an-interesting-hypothesis-query/#findComment-3342330 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valerian Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 Did he pay back the quid that he owed you? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/273583-an-interesting-hypothesis-query/#findComment-3342404 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarl Deathwolf Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 I've been under the assumption that Leman Russ is still looking for that magical tree that bears fruit which can heal the Allfather. Plus, trolling our Rune Priests by giving them visions for a Great Hunt. Truly, Russ is the greatest champion of all he does, even hide and seek. But he is definitely not dead. Definitely not? That's a definitive statement that would require some proof, I would say. Because he is Russ. I can't think of anything that can kill someone like that, can you? But in all due seriousness, I've got nothing to back up my claims (besides Blacksad meeting him at the pub). He is Russ! The Wolf King! Primarch of the Vlka Fenryka! He beat the Allfather in a drinking contest! Surely that must count for something? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/273583-an-interesting-hypothesis-query/#findComment-3342442 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durfast Spiritwolf Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 Ah that's the joy of playing 30k - no such problems. So, he's definitely alive and well, and upstairs quaffing with the Elva (11 GC). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/273583-an-interesting-hypothesis-query/#findComment-3342570 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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