Kaedes Nex Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 Anyone else think the FW legion praetor in PA would make a great Sicarius stand in? Looks better than the official one IMO, and no fine cast to boot! Edit: typo The Legion Praetor has the same vertical sword pose, but the Mk IV Maximus Command set that comes with a standard bearer and a commander has a cape, crested helmet, and is holding the helmet in his arms like Sicarius. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomsev Posted August 18, 2013 Author Share Posted August 18, 2013 Anyone else think the FW legion praetor in PA would make a great Sicarius stand in? Looks better than the official one IMO, and no fine cast to boot! Edit: typo The Legion Praetor has the same vertical sword pose, but the Mk IV Maximus Command set that comes with a standard bearer and a commander has a cape, crested helmet, and is holding the helmet in his arms like Sicarius. i kit bashed a sicarius using the standand bearer helmet from that very set... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultra Magnus Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 With the new codex rumors upon us, I was curious if the reported changes (both in terms of pts. and abilities) to Sicarius have changed anyone's mind about him? Many folks had previously complained about his cost which is now reduced, although his abilities may have been adjusted for it. From what I have read he has lost his re-roll initiative ability in favor of +1 reserves and it also appears that they have dropped Tank Hunters from the list of USR's he can assign. If that is the case I believe my dreams of a tank hunting twin liked melta tactical squad may have been a bit premature. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 You're better off taking a normal captain with artifacer armour, plasma pistol and the burning sword. 10 points cheaper, just as tough and a hell lot better at killing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorFish Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 It's not that bad is it? At least I can still use my model I converted up... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molokai Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 +1 to reserved roll is nice tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 He does have perks. Giving infiltrate or tank hunters to a tac squad can be useful. +1 to reserves can be good or bad Leadership 10 army wide is great, but I predict Calgar will be more popular now and he allows us to chose to pass or fail any morale, pinning or leadership test at will! If coup de grace was AP2 Sucarius would be great.... But a normal captain can now have strength 7, ap2 cc attacks? He could take out 3/4 termies on the charge. Sicarius wil be left out as he can't do that.... I used to be a big supporter of Sicarius... but with these chapter relics we can make more powerful and cheaper generic characters... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Idaho Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 I'm not sure if they are cheaper. For a generic Captain with the Burning Blade and a plasma/grav pistol and artificer armour you're looking at 190pts, same price as Sicarius according to rumours. So it's a choice between a character who kills troops in hand to hand and has a good pistol shot for more powerful opponents or a character who is tougher (FNP) still okay at killing infantry but allows you to take a Tactical squad on Quad gun with a Flak missile and tank hunters, plus other abilities that are good for you if you built your army in certain ways (I rarely use reserves and I wouldn't have him charging a Terminator squad, instead I'd put him in a Sternguard squad). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 Captains are 90 points. 30 more for AA and Plasma Pistol. 55 for the burning blade so 175 total. Unless the price of AA went up? Yes Sicarius has FnP, but a command squad could provide that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorFish Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 Yeah, AA has gone up so we've heard. If you add a CS then you're of course looking at quite a points hike and sticking your commander with them to get the FnP - seems like a lot of effort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 Well, taking a command squad is the main reason to field a captain... If we can still equip them with 4 plasma guns anyways.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorFish Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 I know many speak highly of the command squad, but I've never heard of the Captain being reduced to almost a tax on them... seems a disservice to a pretty good unit. The jury is still out on Sicarius for now but I'm thinking he'll likely be fine. Unfortunately I won't be able to get my hands on the new codex for a while so I'll be relying on others to provide the details when the time comes :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stickeh Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 To those comparing sicaruius to a generic captain, would you really buy the plasma pistol? I know it's in the interest of keeping the equipment the same, but I'd rather save the points especially if AA goes up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greatcrusade08 Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 interesting topic.. heres a follow up Q: does his infiltrate granting ability cover attached ICs to the unit, for example what if i attached sic-boy to a unit of tac marines and gave them infiltrate, would he infiltrate too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molokai Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 Brb pg 38 under infiltrate says a unit containing at least one model. So yeah, I imagine he could infiltrate if he joined said unit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornelias Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 Infiltrating a tac squad supported by scouts and dropping in a dread or 2 with maybe some sternguard or a command squad works well and puts alot of hurt down in the other half of the board pretty quickly I use Sicarius almost exclusively.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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