Boomkapow Posted April 19, 2013 Share Posted April 19, 2013 Since Land Raider Crusaders can deepstrike and are assault vehicles, can a unit that deepstrikes in a land raider deploy then assault? sorry if this is a newb question, but i have only played one game of 6th. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/274324-land-raider-deepstrike-clarification/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orblivion Posted April 19, 2013 Share Posted April 19, 2013 Since Land Raider Crusaders can deepstrike and are assault vehicles, can a unit that deepstrikes in a land raider deploy then assault? sorry if this is a newb question, but i have only played one game of 6th. No, the unit is still considered as arriving via deepstrike and cannot assault that turn. Vanguard Veterans are the only ones who can ignore this rule via their Heroic Intervention. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/274324-land-raider-deepstrike-clarification/#findComment-3352881 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boomkapow Posted April 19, 2013 Author Share Posted April 19, 2013 Thank you kindly. Appreciate the clarification. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/274324-land-raider-deepstrike-clarification/#findComment-3352901 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mysteriousmaskedmystery Posted April 19, 2013 Share Posted April 19, 2013 also, i believe it specifically states that units inside a landraider can't assault out of it on the turn it deepstrikes. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/274324-land-raider-deepstrike-clarification/#findComment-3352904 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CM_Seth Posted April 19, 2013 Share Posted April 19, 2013 also, i believe it specifically states that units inside a landraider can't assault out of it on the turn it deepstrikes. Yes, the Blood Angels Land Raider is enormously clear about this. In fact, if I'm not mistaken they mention it twice; once under the Assault Vehicle rule, and once under the Land Raider's Deep Strike rule. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/274324-land-raider-deepstrike-clarification/#findComment-3352906 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nurglespuss Posted April 19, 2013 Share Posted April 19, 2013 I completey missed that.... Our raiders can deep strike? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/274324-land-raider-deepstrike-clarification/#findComment-3353110 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orblivion Posted April 19, 2013 Share Posted April 19, 2013 I completey missed that.... Our raiders can deep strike? I can't tell if you're being serious or not. Deepstriking Land Raiders was the inspiration for your avatar after all. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/274324-land-raider-deepstrike-clarification/#findComment-3353116 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitadelArmyGuy Posted April 19, 2013 Share Posted April 19, 2013 I completey missed that.... Our raiders can deep strike? I can't tell if you're being serious or not. Deepstriking Land Raiders was the inspiration for your avatar after all. I thought the "Flying Land Raider" was a jab at the Stormraven back when only BA had it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/274324-land-raider-deepstrike-clarification/#findComment-3353120 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nurglespuss Posted April 19, 2013 Share Posted April 19, 2013 Yup, twas a jab at the hoorible winged van. Going to check my codex now... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/274324-land-raider-deepstrike-clarification/#findComment-3353123 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orblivion Posted April 19, 2013 Share Posted April 19, 2013 I completey missed that.... Our raiders can deep strike? I can't tell if you're being serious or not. Deepstriking Land Raiders was the inspiration for your avatar after all. I thought the "Flying Land Raider" was a jab at the Stormraven back when only BA had it. I thought it was a mix to be honest. The original rumors of the Stormraven was that it was the equivalent of a flying Land Raider. But the deepstriking Land Raider thing also brought up the joke that the Land Raiders themselves were flying, hence their deepstrike rule. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/274324-land-raider-deepstrike-clarification/#findComment-3353124 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quixus Posted April 19, 2013 Share Posted April 19, 2013 The most hilarious thing about deep striking land raiders is that a single gretchin can destroy the whole land raider and its cargo if it scatters. If they were explicitly teleporting land raiders, I would understand it, but simply dropping on a gretchin instead of landscape is ridiculous. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/274324-land-raider-deepstrike-clarification/#findComment-3353311 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadpool1713 Posted April 20, 2013 Share Posted April 20, 2013 I think I would rather have fast land raiders than deep striking land raiders (can troops assault out of a fast vehicle though? I'm quite noobish myself so I wouldn't know ). Last time I checked, the LR is a pretty big (and expensive) model and the chances of it scattering and misshaping are too great to risk losing it in my opinion. This becomes especially risky if you have a squad inside (ex. assault termies or whatever you like to toss in your LR). One tiny gretchin (or scarab, or ripper swarm, etc...) in the way and hundreds of points go down the drain The only way way I could see this working any better is if Sanguinius himself willed that your LR arrives safely, or you use Tycho's re roll thing on one of the dice and hope for the best. Either way, I don't see myself trying to drop a land raider anytime soon (also considering the fact that I sadly don't even own one yet ) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/274324-land-raider-deepstrike-clarification/#findComment-3353488 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ushtarador Posted April 20, 2013 Share Posted April 20, 2013 You can't disembark out of a vehicle that moved more than 6'' I believe the most effective strategy to DS a raider would be to use drop pods with locator beacons ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/274324-land-raider-deepstrike-clarification/#findComment-3353504 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadpool1713 Posted April 20, 2013 Share Posted April 20, 2013 You can't disembark out of a vehicle that moved more than 6'' I believe the most effective strategy to DS a raider would be to use drop pods with locator beacons alright thank you for the answer about the fast land raiders, seems a bit less practical now I suppose. Also, why did I not think of the locator beacons on the drop pods? I've used them for everything else! oh well, derp moment I suppose. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/274324-land-raider-deepstrike-clarification/#findComment-3353512 Share on other sites More sharing options...
knife&fork Posted April 20, 2013 Share Posted April 20, 2013 Scout bikers could also work. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/274324-land-raider-deepstrike-clarification/#findComment-3353630 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ushtarador Posted April 20, 2013 Share Posted April 20, 2013 I prefer 2 drop pods with something dangerous in it, because then the opponent usually won't have time to destroy the pods. After all, they are AV12 and got 3 hull points, a lot harder to kill than some bikes^^ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/274324-land-raider-deepstrike-clarification/#findComment-3353636 Share on other sites More sharing options...
knife&fork Posted April 20, 2013 Share Posted April 20, 2013 True, but the bikes can start on the board and doesn't scatter themselves. If you already have a bunch of dangerous units deployed maybe you are unlikely to need the raider and it's cargo? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/274324-land-raider-deepstrike-clarification/#findComment-3353651 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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