A Chamber militant DIY

[Dark En Raul13]

Above are a range of images of different types of units of the Dantium Pacis, at the end is the design for the Lord Master Kothe

So just had a brand new idea after a friend asked me about a chamber militant for the ordo sepulturum

New ideas and changes to this are in red

CHAPTER NAME: . . . . . . . . . . . . . .THE DANTIUM PACIS

FOUNDING: . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .CURSED 21ST FOUNDING

CHAPTER WORLD: . . . . . . . . . . . . NOCTE AETERNA

FORTRESS MONASTARY: . . . . . . .THE ECCLESIA PURITATIS

GENE-SEED (PREDECESSOR): . . RAVEN GUARD

KNOWN DESCENDANTS: . . . . . . .NONE

ORIGINS:

The Emperors huntsmen chapter was nearly completely wiped out during the seige of Te'Kartu in M37, shortly after the remenants of the chapter were saved by the Knights Of The Storm the remaining marines and their leader fled the planet, abandoning the husk of a world that had once been their home after the Forces of chaos had practically preformed the unitentional equivilant of exterminatus upon the planet.

The remains of the chapter made their home on the night shrouded planet of Nocte Aeterna (eternal night), and after almost a millenium of recruiting the cursed chapter finally reached its full strength of 1000 marines, and now they sought a way to atone for their faliure to protect Te'Kartu from their enemy, this lead them to scour the galaxy till an outbreak of the zombie plague in a small settlement found on the night shrouded planet just before the 13th black crusade, this lead the chapter to send in 25 noble battle-brothers to purge the city, after these brothers had dealt with the plague they executed themselves, realising they had exposed themselves to the virus.

Shortly after this event the newly founded Ordo Sepulturum landed on the planet and demanded that all remaining details of the outbreak be turned over to them, this lead to the chapter enquiring as to what exactly the plague was and what it was that could be done to stop it. After 2 days the chapter and the ordo had entered into an alliance, the chapter was granted any and all information obtained on the plague, the only condition was that the chapter assist the Ordo Sepulturum in combating and analising the zombie plague to attempt to create a 'faith virus' to resurect the Emperor, they agreed and changed their name to the Dantium Pacis, the givers of peace, effectively becoming the Ordo sepulturum's unofficial chamber militant.

HOMEWORLD:

The eternal-night world of Nocte Aeterna is located in the Segmentum Obscurus, not to far from the Eye of Terror. This nocturnal worlds position close to the Eye allows the Chapter and the Ordo Sepulturum to monitor and contain/purge any outbreaks of the Zombie Plague within the space around the Eye.

This world is covered in small settlements and dark sand-filled deserts covered in huge dark leafed trees and large, wild oceans. It orbits a dim star and is constantly in a state of endless night, its 3 moons constantly keepig the world in a strange, twilight state. This world is mostly empty save for its nocturnal wildlife, ranging from huge lumbering beasts to small, lightning-fast insects. This world has been transformed into one of the imperium's most precious worlds, its surface may be barren but the northern-most continent, of which covers 1/8th of the planets surface is completely dominated by the Dantium Pacis and the Ordo Sepulturm's underground labs, used to test and attempt to create a stable 'faith virus' to re-animate the Emperor.

The Chapters fortress monastary, The Ecclesia Puritatis, is located at the northern pole of the planet, on a single lone island just off the coast of the planets northern most continent. This monastary hangs over the edge of a huge cliff facing the northern continent, its huge black stone walls blending it into the dark sky of the planet, the only thing revealing the fortresses existance is the lights that illuminate its large landing pad and the gatehouse at the front of the monastary, aside from that the fortress is just a black silouhette against a eternal dark sky.

COMBAT DOCTRINE:

The Dantium Pacis is relentless and unforgiving in their attacks, their main goal is to do whatever it takes to either contain their enemy or completely eradicate them, this way of fighting has earned the chapter a dark and brutal reputation, despite their noble intentions. They have their own unique style of fighting due to the chapter altering its tactics and armour to combat and resist the attacks of the plague zombies

ORGANISATION:

The Chapter is organised into 5 distinct companies, each one host to exactly 185 marines and 15 vehicles.

Each company is lead by a Lord Brother, the eqivilant of a captain, and contains a number of neophytes, brothers, armoured brothers, high brothers, master brothers and a single Lord brother, this organisation is always employed and is the only known Chapter to have only 5 companies.

BELIEFS:

The chapter holds the rigid belief that the emperor can be saved from death and that the solution to this is his enemy, the forces of chaos and their chaos born disease the Zombie Plague. This belief borders on heritical but the chapters determination to save their god-emperor and their allegiance to the ordo Sepulturum, of which appears to hold similar hopes in the idea that the zombie plague holds the cure to the emperors life after undeath has made them a well-respected chapter. However, the chapter is widely feared due to its tendancy to take 'test subjects' to experiment on. These range from surviving enemy cultists or civilians to allied space marines who are presumed 'dead' by their chapters, this is a well guarded secret that only the Dantium Pacis and the Ordo Sepulturm know, and it is best it stays that way

THE CURSE:

The Dantium Pacis is cursed by a dark mutation. This mutation in their gene-seed leads the marines to grow bone-like retractable talons in the place of their fingernails and develop vampiric-like retractable fangs, they also become hypersensitive to sunlight (this part of the mutation has been made worse due to the eternal darkness of their homeworld). These dark changes are kept hidden behind the sealed armour of the marines during most of their battles and is only revealed usually when upon their home world. The Inquistion knows of their mutation but it does not label the marines as mutants to the point where they would need to be purged, instead they are classed more like abhumans.

This Curse is seen more like a blessing by some and a terible disease by other members of the chapter, this has lead to the development of 3 distinct groups within the chapter. The 1st group is lead by the high librarian of the chapter and regards their curse as a blessing, often making use of its mutations in battle. The 2nd group regards themselves as simply unique space marines, and do not care what other chapters, the inquistion or the imperium as a whole think and is lead by Lord Master Kothe, chapter master of the Dantium Pacis. The 3rd group see themselves as monsters, they are lead by the lord brother Icarus, 2nd in command to Lord Master Kothe.

so thats my idea so far but i want to see what you guys think...so over to you

so this is the slightly revised and altered ideas for the Dantium Pacis chapter, i want this to be as close to the law of 40k as it can be so please point out any flaws or changes that could be made to make it better. And i still havnt come up with a curse, i was thinking something vampiric but any ideas you come up with would be helpful since ive had a mental block

cheers

[Ecritter]

Chapters and the Inquistion seldom if ever "enter an alliance", separation of power and all.  The Inquisition can call in support from any of the other branches of the military.

 

Other issue is that a chapter dedicated to such a small issue, "plague zombies" is really weird.  SMs are specialist in not being specialized.  They fight anyone .. anywhere.  Thats that they do.

[BrotherCaptainArkhan]

The other 'biggie' is that the Chapter's belief about using Chaos to resurrect the Emperor is heretical. No two ways about it. That's how it'd be seen by every major organisation within the Imperium and it would probably be considered grounds to declare them Excommunicate Traitoris if word got around. The Ordo Hereticus would NOT turn a 'blind eye', the whole raison d'etre of the Ordo Hereticus is to sniff out any and all Imperial groups which perform acts of heresy. Sorry to be a party pooper!

[Malthe]

Your cursed chapter seems to lack a curse... I suggest you simply choose another founding :)

I think a chapter heavily involved in combatting the zombie plague could be very interestig, but I'd cut back on the alliance with the inquisition. Maybe make it a more informal alliance or explore the conflicts of interest that such an alliance could lead to.

 

Also I'd refrain from using latin names and go with plain english. And please, replace some commas with dots! You have quite a few sentences which would do better as two, three or four ;)

 

I hope you make this work; zombie hunting is cool!

[Conn Eremon]

You also have an event involving the Tau exterminatusing in M37. About 3000 years before they stopped being primitive.

[Brother Tyler]

If I'm reading the OP's intent correctly, part of his concept is that this Chapter is the Chamber Militant of an Ordo of the Inquisition, much as the Grey Knights are the Chamber Militant of the Ordo Malleus and the Deathwatch is the Chamber Militant of the Ordo Xenos. The official lore explicitly states that each of the Ordos of the Inquisition has a Space Marine Chapter it calls upon as its Chamber Militant. While Codex: Witch Hunters later indicated that the Orders Militant of the Adepta Sororitas were the Chamber Militant of the Ordo Hereticus, the Chambers Militant of the other Ordos have never been named.

 

So it's entirely reasonable for a player to create their DIY as the Chamber Militant of the Ordo Sepulturum.

 

The Tau issue is clearly inconsistent with the established lore, however.

[Ecritter]

Grey Knights are a special case as they were made in secret before the 2nd founding for that single purpose.  Deathwatch isn't a SM chapter, but volunteers from chapters.  And those seem to be the only examples of SMs working "with" not "for" the Inquisition.  And I really doubt the Ordo Sepulturum, being only one of the many Ordos Minoris, made only recently would qualify for its own Chamber Militant.  This is of course only my opinion.

[Brother Tyler]

From the Inquisitor rulebook:

 

"Like the other Ordos of the Inquisition, the Ordo Xenos have their own Space Marine Chapter - the Deathwatch."

 

The conservative translation of this (which I subscribe to) is that the major Ordos have a Space Marine Chapter at their disposal.

 

A more liberal translation would allow for any Ordo to have a Space Marine Chapter at its disposal.

 

Games Workshop hasn't given us the specifics, so regardless of what we as individuals prefer or find logical, the lore fully allows for the OP to do what he's doing. The challenge the OP has is providing a solid rationale for this in order to satisfy the expectations of other players. Actually, that's only a challenge if he decides to try to satisfy the expectations of other players. He could just as easily decide that he simply wants to establish the relationship and not bother trying to satisfy everyone else.

 

His call.

[Marshal Rohr]

I just had an awesome idea for the Ordo Kronos...

[Hyaenidae]

From the Inquisitor rulebook:

 

"Like the other Ordos of the Inquisition, the Ordo Xenos have their own Space Marine Chapter - the Deathwatch."

 

The conservative translation of this (which I subscribe to) is that the major Ordos have a Space Marine Chapter at their disposal.

 

A more liberal translation would allow for any Ordo to have a Space Marine Chapter at its disposal.

 

Games Workshop hasn't given us the specifics, so regardless of what we as individuals prefer or find logical, the lore fully allows for the OP to do what he's doing. The challenge the OP has is providing a solid rationale for this in order to satisfy the expectations of other players. Actually, that's only a challenge if he decides to try to satisfy the expectations of other players. He could just as easily decide that he simply wants to establish the relationship and not bother trying to satisfy everyone else.

 

His call.

 

Holy crap. I never read between the lines on that one. My imagination is aflame suddenly...

[Conn Eremon]

. . . Ditto.

[Dark En Raul13]

From the Inquisitor rulebook:

"Like the other Ordos of the Inquisition, the Ordo Xenos have their own Space Marine Chapter - the Deathwatch."

The conservative translation of this (which I subscribe to) is that the major Ordos have a Space Marine Chapter at their disposal.

A more liberal translation would allow for any Ordo to have a Space Marine Chapter at its disposal.

This is what i thought about before i started any ideas, but i think ill still start mixing some stuff round

You also have an event involving the Tau exterminatusing in M37. About 3000 years before they stopped being primitive.

ah...thats a big mistake on my part, ill alter that around since it doesnt work

Your cursed chapter seems to lack a curse... I suggest you simply choose another founding

I think a chapter heavily involved in combatting the zombie plague could be very interestig, but I'd cut back on the alliance with the inquisition. Maybe make it a more informal alliance or explore the conflicts of interest that such an alliance could lead to.

Im still trying to come up with a curse that i think could make them seem very...different to say the least, like the black dragons

The other 'biggie' is that the Chapter's belief about using Chaos to resurrect the Emperor is heretical. No two ways about it. That's how it'd be seen by every major organisation within the Imperium and it would probably be considered grounds to declare them Excommunicate Traitoris if word got around. The Ordo Hereticus would NOT turn a 'blind eye', the whole raison d'etre of the Ordo Hereticus is to sniff out any and all Imperial groups which perform acts of heresy. Sorry to be a party pooper!

yeah but it specifically states that the Ordo Sepulturum is attempting to create a stable faith virus, and the basis of this is stated to be the zombie plague...therefore the ordo itself would be classed as heritical, so if an ordo can experiment without being classed as heritics with this idea then why wouldnt a chapter who works for the ordo be able to assist and believe that this faith virus is the only solution? And i kinda saw how stupid the idea of the Ordo Hereticus turning a blind eye was after i posted but i wanted to see if you guys somehow knew how it could work

[Conn Eremon]

I like the idea that your Chapter is divided on the curse and that their Chapter Master doesn't hold himself aloof from it, though he is of the rather moderate faction.

 

The bone blades of the Black Dragons actually burst through their armour, so your claws should as well, I think.

[Messor]

I don't think they burst through, per se. It would lose a lot of value as armor if bone(even hardened Astartes bone) could punch through. The Black Dragons just accommodate for the growing blades. Same difference though, you get your weapons and keep your armor.

[Octavulg]

The major problem I'd see with them being the Ordo Sepulturum's Chamber Militant is that the Ordo Sepulturum was formed the 40K equivalent of last Tuesday - during the 13th Black Crusade. Which is still ongoing. That's not a bad idea in and of itself, but you seem to have the impression that they're a lot older. This'd be a REALLY recent event in the history of the chapter. Like, last week recent.

 

That aspect of the concept makes sense, it just seems like the sort of thing that'd happen a few centuries after the founding of the Ordo. Which isn't exactly very useful for your purposes, since that'd be a few centuries in the future even if GW HAD been keeping the timeline up to date.

 

Them being Cursed Founding seems kind of unnecessary and the sort of thing that would make the Inquisition trust them less. If you don't know what you want to do with something, not doing it is usually a good plan. Right now they're Cursed, but it has no real impact on who they are.

 

Why have them break from the Codex?

 

I'd figure out what you want the Chapter to be as an independent entity (presumably with a close connection to their home world). Then have them have the Plague Zombies on their home world. Right now they don't have much personality - the Ordo thing can't really be their defining characteristic because it happens too late. So you need to figure out what they're like without that.

[Calgar 2.0]

I'm not really to keen on the idea of the Marines killing themselves because they fought zombies, it's just impractical to waste themselves like that, especially considering they are the remnants of a chapter that just lost it's homeworld.

[Gripharius]

Isn't the Ordo Sepulturum missing? I had the impression that the same fluff that created it also said it disappeared and no one knows where it is, who it is or what it's doing.

[Conn Eremon]

Huh, post got eaten. Short version, I thought some Black Dragon protruberances did burst free, as their enhanced bone structures were just that hard.

 

Octavulg has a point about the recentness of the Ordo. I'd suggest a close working relationship founded on circumstances putting them together that has some speaking, likely those in the Ordo and not the Chapter, of the possibility of a future alliance along the lines of a chamber militant.

[Messor]

Could be, Cormac, I'm not super well versed in their fluff, that was just the "reasonable marine" in me talking.

 

How old is this Zombie Plague? Could come together on a foundation of rumors. The Ordo(if it's missing) doesn't seem like the kind of thing you want misplaced. Perhaps only hint at them being older, and the Chapter created to determine their fate. Maybe they find them and join them, or maybe they're still looking and the zombie plague is just a clue on the trail.

 

Edit: I didn't even notice you'd already talked about reasonable marines today.

 

Edit II: well, so much for that

[Calgar 2.0]

Isn't the Ordo Sepulturum missing? I had the impression that the same fluff that created it also said it disappeared and no one knows where it is, who it is or what it's doing.

 

You're thinking of the Ordo Kronos.

[Conn Eremon]

Edit: I didn't even notice you'd already talked about reasonable marines today.

At first I thought that you brought it up deliberately to be sarcastic.

 

OP, if Sepulturum has all kinds of problems surrounding it, what about shifting to a different Ordo? Not saying you should, just throwing it out there.

[Brother Tyler]

According to the Thorian Sourcebook, "occurrences of Plague Zombies have been recorded across the Imperium for many millennia." The sourcebook later goes on to say that the incidences of Plague Zombies dramatically increased "[before] Abaddon's 13th Black Crusade" and that this led to the Ordo Sepulturum being created as a result. The exact date of the Ordo's founding isn't given, but it can be assumed to be fairly recent (as other members have already indicated).

This doesn't prevent that Ordo from having established an alliance with an existing Chapter of the Adeptus Astartes. Whether or not such a Chapter might be considered the Chamber Militant of the Ordo Sepulturum might be in question, but it is certainly within the realm of the possible.

Following the off topic issue, I'm curious about these "Reasonable Marines." They sound like ineffective heretics.

[Dark En Raul13]

I like the idea that your Chapter is divided on the curse and that their Chapter Master doesn't hold himself aloof from it, though he is of the rather moderate faction.

 

The bone blades of the Black Dragons actually burst through their armour, so your claws should as well, I think.

I thought the bone blades came through altered areas in their armour?

i wanted to make the claws burst through but i paint wouldnt load to allow me to do some awesome editing, i really want to alter the whole appearance of the marines and make them look really vampiric and nasty, ill get round to it when paint loads up eventually

im thinking of introducing a completely new faction that he leads, a more aggressive, storied fraction

How old is this Zombie Plague? Could come together on a foundation of rumors. The Ordo(if it's missing) doesn't seem like the kind of thing you want misplaced. Perhaps only hint at them being older, and the Chapter created to determine their fate. Maybe they find them and join them, or maybe they're still looking and the zombie plague is just a clue on the trail.

The zombie plague itself seems to have been around since the great crusade since warmaster horus apparently battled the same kind of creatures on the moon davin

I'm not really to keen on the idea of the Marines killing themselves because they fought zombies, it's just impractical to waste themselves like that, especially considering they are the remnants of a chapter that just lost it's homeworld.

the idea was that the marines began to experiance symptoms of the plague, seeing themselves as infected they decided that suicide was the only way to stem the infection

 Them being Cursed Founding seems kind of unnecessary and the sort of thing that would make the Inquisition trust them less. If you don't know what you want to do with something, not doing it is usually a good plan. Right now they're Cursed, but it has no real impact on who they are.

 

Why have them break from the Codex?

 

I'd figure out what you want the Chapter to be as an independent entity (presumably with a close connection to their home world). Then have them have the Plague Zombies on their home world. Right now they don't have much personality - the Ordo thing can't really be their defining characteristic because it happens too late. So you need to figure out what they're like without that.

i want them to be a completely independant entity(as you stated) but i want them to be monsters like the creatures their fighting, i want them to fight these creatures because they see themselves as equal to them and take pity on them, basically granting them the emperors peace