marvmoogy Posted May 1, 2013 Author Share Posted May 1, 2013 Right guys, I've been measuring up and thinking it through and I'm going to move away from the traditional method of making a board (as in 64 separate blocks of wood). If you read on, you'll see why I've limited the board to 40mm bases! :) The first stage of the "Warhammer 40,000 supreme chess board featuring the Dark Angels and another army which to this point shall remain nameless because its undecided" is the measuring. The actual playing surface will measure in at 415mm x 415mm. This is broken down into a 10mm boarder around the outside, 5mm between each square and the playing sqaures being 45mm each. The plan is to buy a 3mm piece of MDF or similar, measure out the board squares and the boarder and pencil this on to the MDF. The next stage will be to put a X in each box from corner to corner which will give me the centre point of each square. Now, here's the clever part. I then drill a 40mm hole through the centre of each box, and glue the drilled out sheet onto another solid sheet measuring 415x415mm. This will give me a 3mm indent on each playing square. GW 40mm bases are about 4mm deep, so the models base should fit fairly flush with the playing surface which will 1) give the appearance of them not having bases and 2) make it easier for the models to stand up on the board and not get knocked over as easily. After the holes have been drilled out and the 2 sheets have been sandwiched, I'll then either use a router to indent the 5mm lines between the squares or just paint them on.....this is TBC (as I haven't got a router, have never used on and not sure if I can afford it!) When this has all been done, the masking take will be coming out and the respective squares will be painted. I hope I made that sound as good as it looks in my head......I'll do my best to get onto it this weekend and try to get some pics up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Tyler Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 I'm looking forward to seeing your updates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artemid Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 You should pick two terrain types and use one for each square color (IE dirt + grass, rock + lava, flagstone + mud, etc) and base everybody in a mix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marvmoogy Posted May 2, 2013 Author Share Posted May 2, 2013 You should pick two terrain types and use one for each square color (IE dirt + grass, rock + lava, flagstone + mud, etc) and base everybody in a mix. I did think about this, but I'm going which chapter markers instead. The black squares (which may well end up being dark green) will have a white DA winged sword in the recess and the opposing side will have their 'logo' on the white squares. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artemid Posted May 2, 2013 Share Posted May 2, 2013 You should pick two terrain types and use one for each square color (IE dirt + grass, rock + lava, flagstone + mud, etc) and base everybody in a mix. I did think about this, but I'm going which chapter markers instead. The black squares (which may well end up being dark green) will have a white DA winged sword in the recess and the opposing side will have their 'logo' on the white squares. My brain is torn between that looking righteous and... being incredibly busy and distracting. Just make sure you mock it up first then :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marvmoogy Posted May 2, 2013 Author Share Posted May 2, 2013 You should pick two terrain types and use one for each square color (IE dirt + grass, rock + lava, flagstone + mud, etc) and base everybody in a mix. I did think about this, but I'm going which chapter markers instead. The black squares (which may well end up being dark green) will have a white DA winged sword in the recess and the opposing side will have their 'logo' on the white squares. My brain is torn between that looking righteous and... being incredibly busy and distracting. Just make sure you mock it up first then that's a good point.....hmmmmm, will have to think on that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marvmoogy Posted May 4, 2013 Author Share Posted May 4, 2013 Right guys, The wood has been bought! As has the copious amounts of masking tape, the wood glue and the 40mm drill bit. The board is all measured up and ready for drilling tomorrow. I'll happily put some pics up on this thread, but just thinking it may be worth moving to the WIPs section? What does Brother Admin think? Cheers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanhausen Posted May 4, 2013 Share Posted May 4, 2013 Really excited about your project! And here I sit thinking of how to help you out with the painting/texturizing of the different squares... First, I'd draw the lines (with a sharp blade? Pressing a molding tool? A pen?) And draw the X you talk about. Then drill and texturize and prime. I would just paint everything the clear colour (hopefully by airbrush) and go over the required corners with dark angel green. Then dry brush the texture and you're probably to go. If you want to give it a polished finish, maybe gloss varnish on the untexturized dark corners. Be sure to post pics! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marvmoogy Posted May 4, 2013 Author Share Posted May 4, 2013 Cheers Tanhausen, Unfortunately I don't have an air brush (it would be really helpful as I have pretty much a while battle company to paint!!!) so I'm going to have to get the masking tape out! I've measured and drawn it up (with a good old pencil) in such a way (pic to follow tomorrow) so there is a 5mm gap between the individual squares. This will be sprayed black and then the squares will be bone and DA green. That way the board represents the Greenwing, Deathwing and Ravenwing. I'm going to keep the actual squares fairly basic so as not to detract from the pieces. I'll aim for 1 pic of the measured up board, 1 with minis on for scale (but they wont be the final minis that will be used in the set!) and one of the drilled out top section. If I get chance, I'll also try and get one of the completed top and bottom sections ready for spraying. Cheers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marvmoogy Posted May 5, 2013 Author Share Posted May 5, 2013 Ok, bit of an update for you guys....WITH PICS! (although for some reason I can't embed the pics in the thread....so please have a click over to flickr) Pic 1 This is the board after a few hours of measuring out distances and drawing lines all over it. I've put a 'cross' in each square so that it marks the centre point for drilling later on. http://www.flickr.com/photos/marvmoogymodels/8710162454/in/photostream/lightbox/ Pic 2 After drawing out the board, I wanted to check that the measurements were accurate. So, I picked a few of my termies out and centered them on the board. I think looking at it that the scale and size of the squares is bang on! http://www.flickr.com/photos/marvmoogymodels/8710162356/in/photostream Pic 3 Having settled on the sizing, I wanted to see what they looked like with a row of pawns in front. I know these guys are on 25mm bases but for the mockup, I think the size difference between the pawns and the characters is about right. Happy so far! http://www.flickr.com/photos/marvmoogymodels/8709038703/in/photostream Pic 4 With my sizing and measuring all double checked and being happy with the mockup, it was time to get the drill out! I started by drilling the 64 pilot holes through the centre of each square. The, I got the 40mm hole-saw and bolted it in to the harbour......and here lies my first problem! The holesaw unscrews itself from the harbour every time i drill it....so I'm hoping to get a new harbour later so that I can continue and get all 64 holes drilled. http://www.flickr.com/photos/marvmoogymodels/8709038577/in/photostream Pic 5 I was a bit worried about having a tight fit as I'm using a 40mm hole to fit 40mm bases. Luckily, it's worked out ok. I placed one of my termies into the half-drilled hole and he sits in fine! Phew :) http://www.flickr.com/photos/marvmoogymodels/8710161816/in/photostream That's all for now folks...until I get my new harbour.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marvmoogy Posted May 5, 2013 Author Share Posted May 5, 2013 Okey dokey....the harbor is sorted now! So.... Pic 6 This is the completed drilled-out top sheet. I've filed the holes down but they could do with sanding down a little....the problem with this is that I may lose the lines I need! http://www.flickr.com/photos/marvmoogymodels/8711363244/in/photostream Pic 7 This is a quick Chaplain conversion I've put together to represent a Bishiop. I'm happy with the mini, but the scale is wrong. The other termies that will represent Characters will dwarf him as he won't be any bigger than the Tactical pawns. Oh well, look's like my Greenwing Army has got itself a Chaplain! http://www.flickr.com/photos/marvmoogymodels/8710240345/in/photostream Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ordo Machinum Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 Great update! If I can offer a suggestion, what do you think of trying to keep the profile of the model within the chess squarer? I noticed one of your terminators looked like his two-handed relic weapon may reach beyond that, and that may allow models to actually touch each other. It could also cause an inadvertent tip-over when moving pieces. Just a thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marvmoogy Posted May 5, 2013 Author Share Posted May 5, 2013 Cheers, Archangel. All C&C is very welcome. I know what you mean about the Deathwing Champion. The models in that picture are just taken from my Deathwing force (that have only been undercoated before anyone thinks my painting is that bad... ;-) ) and I only put them in for reference and to give the board some scale. I've been thinking that this is nice as a display board, but it is a little on the big side. I might do a smaller board using only 25mm bases...but I WILL get this one finished before that starts! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanhausen Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 Yeah, focus, don't get distracted by other projects :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marvmoogy Posted May 6, 2013 Author Share Posted May 6, 2013 Hi guys, Gotta love these bank holiday weekends....it means I get to spend some time on my projects! Before I called it a night yesterday, I glued the top and bottom sheets together. I used a standard wood glue, putting a blob between each square and round the edge. I weighted it down with a decently heavy off cut and put 6 clamps to hold it together. Sorry guys, but I got no pics of that stage. Pic 8 This morning, I masked off the cross lines and sprayed them with GW Chaos Black. After this had dried, I masked off the adjacent lines and sprayed them too. http://www.flickr.com/photos/marvmoogymodels/8714067758/in/photostream Pic 9 And here we have another little problem. I didn't realise that the wood would soak in the paint and that this would soak past the lines I've drawn. I know, I know....rookie mistake. But, hey...this is the first time I've worked with wood since I was at school....15 years ago! So, my plan is to mask off one of the squares as a tester and spray it in bone and another in green. I'm hoping that, with the wood having soaked in the black, the other colours won't be soaked up. Finger's crossed.... http://www.flickr.com/photos/marvmoogymodels/8712944927/in/photostream LOL @ Tanhausen.....do other projects include the battle company and 3k points of Deathwing and 3k points of Ravenwing? ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marvmoogy Posted May 6, 2013 Author Share Posted May 6, 2013 And now for what may well be my final update for a week (depending on what 'er indoors has planned!) Pic 10 I've sprayed 2 squares in the green to give me a comparison and to check if I like the colours. http://www.flickr.com/photos/marvmoogymodels/8713056641/in/photostream Pic 11 Looks like my masking tape isn't quite cutting the mustard. I've got a bit of overspray on the original bone square which I'm not too happy about. I'm using Army Painter Angel Green and Bone for the squares. I'll need to have a look online to get some of the paint in a pot to do some touch ups with a brush. http://www.flickr.com/photos/marvmoogymodels/8713056753/in/photostream Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanhausen Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 Nah, you handful of models in SGDWT (Should Get Done With This) don't count :P And I don't think that its your nasking tape that doesn't cut it...its the technique you're using that makes it VERY hard to be accurate: every little space, air bubble, wood imperfection...gets magnified when spraying. That's why I suggested you did everything on the claer colour first...and then went back and did the dark one. Maybe using some kind of wood stencil to paint the lines when finished or so... But hey, you seem to be a patient person and usually that works wonders for hobby :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EPK Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 Okey dokey....the harbor is sorted now! So.... Pic 6 This is the completed drilled-out top sheet. I've filed the holes down but they could do with sanding down a little....the problem with this is that I may lose the lines I need! http://www.flickr.com/photos/marvmoogymodels/8711363244/in/photostream Pic 7 This is a quick Chaplain conversion I've put together to represent a Bishiop. I'm happy with the mini, but the scale is wrong. The other termies that will represent Characters will dwarf him as he won't be any bigger than the Tactical pawns. Oh well, look's like my Greenwing Army has got itself a Chaplain! http://www.flickr.com/photos/marvmoogymodels/8710240345/in/photostream You could always attach him to the 25 mm base and glue that to the 40 mm one. Though I suppose that would be sorta of inconsistent. Nice work so far though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marvmoogy Posted May 8, 2013 Author Share Posted May 8, 2013 Okey dokey....the harbor is sorted now! So.... Pic 6 This is the completed drilled-out top sheet. I've filed the holes down but they could do with sanding down a little....the problem with this is that I may lose the lines I need! http://www.flickr.com/photos/marvmoogymodels/8711363244/in/photostream Pic 7 This is a quick Chaplain conversion I've put together to represent a Bishiop. I'm happy with the mini, but the scale is wrong. The other termies that will represent Characters will dwarf him as he won't be any bigger than the Tactical pawns. Oh well, look's like my Greenwing Army has got itself a Chaplain! http://www.flickr.com/photos/marvmoogymodels/8710240345/in/photostream You could always attach him to the 25 mm base and glue that to the 40 mm one. Though I suppose that would be sorta of inconsistent. Nice work so far though. I did have a look at that, but the termies look like they dwarf him too much. Looks like the back row is TDA all the way! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanhausen Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 Or JP marines..ya know, mobilty and all that (bishop and knight)... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cactus Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 Pic 7 This is a quick Chaplain conversion I've put together to represent a Bishiop. I'm happy with the mini, but the scale is wrong. The other termies that will represent Characters will dwarf him as he won't be any bigger than the Tactical pawns. Oh well, look's like my Greenwing Army has got itself a Chaplain! http://www.flickr.com/photos/marvmoogymodels/8710240345/in/photostream Has nobody yet suggested using Watchers in the Dark as the pawns? That would keep the difference in height between the pieces and be uniquely Unforgiven. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marvmoogy Posted May 8, 2013 Author Share Posted May 8, 2013 JP Marines could work...I haven't got any so will need to get some to size them up. As for watchers in the dark, I really can't afford £280 to buy 8 boxes of Deathwing Termies to get hold of them! If I could, I'd be happy with the additional 2000 points worth of DW to my army though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marvmoogy Posted May 12, 2013 Author Share Posted May 12, 2013 Hi all, well, it's been a bit of a slow weekend in terms of progress. The weather has been against me so I haven't done any spraying....but I have been planning the rest of the idea... The board as it stands is just going to be a smaller part of a bigger piece. It will sit atop a larger 'structure' with two drawers at either side to hold the pieces when not in use. I haven't decided on what wood to use here, but I'm hoping it will look similar to this: http://www.flickr.com/photos/marvmoogymodels/8732224152/in/photostream What do you guys think? Cheers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanhausen Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 Wow, that set ended up looking really good ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marvmoogy Posted May 27, 2013 Author Share Posted May 27, 2013 HI All, well, after a long delay due to work, real life and rubbish weather when I have had time to do something, I finally have another update. As you can see in the pic below, I've finished spraying!!! Ok, I know there is quite a bit of touching up to do, but I'm happy this part of the project is over. I'll be buying some pots the army painter colours I've used and getting the touching up done and then varnishing the board. I want to get something quite glossy so any suggestions would be appreciated! http://www.flickr.com/photos/marvmoogymodels/8857585399/ I've also spent quite a bit of time in various joiners / builders yards to get ideas of phase 2 - the decorative setting of the board to sit in. I was thinking about drawers, but they are going to be too complex (read: time consuming) so I'm going to go with a fairly simple sent up. I've seen the style of wood I want to use and I've chosen to use walnut for it, again to be varnished up nicely. Now, the bad news. The next 3 weekends are all booked up for me....nice weekend away next week and the week after I'm on holiday. So, it could easily be 3 weeks before the touching up starts and a month or more until I buy the wood for the paneling.... hope you all stick around Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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