Did Draigo fall to Slaanesh?

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Draigo is the most recent bandwagon character. His fluff is supposed to be unbelievable, heroic and tragic.

Maybe those who think it's badly written should bag themselves a job

with GW and do better? Oh wait, you're probably too busy being a special

forces ninja, or genetic engineer, or university professor or any of

the other myriad amazeballs jobs that the haters on here always seem to

claim they have to justify their arguments.........

Ahh, fallacy, what an amazing thing, isn't it ?

Nobody cares about what Draigo's fluff is supposed to be, it sure is unbelievable to the point it makes the setting look ridiculous. It is in fact so unbelievable that it can't even be heroic or tragic because to be heroic or tragic, a story must be believable, it must be coherent with its setting. Otherwise, it's out of place and ridiculous. See, if Achilles killed Hector with a laser rifle, it would've been retarded. Draigo is retarded.

Pretending nobody can point out what's wrong in what GW produces because "OLOLOL, do better" is pretty poor. But it must work quite well in schoolyards I guess.

I didn't for one moment pretend that no one can point out what's wrong with GW. I myself can think of a lot of things that I believe to be wrong with them. However, what's 'wrong' with them is entirely subjective. If you want to attack me personally then please, make sure you read and understand what I've written before you do.

My point is, those who are saying it's 'just badly written' (and I admit, I probably should have been more specific there) are almost certainly incapable of doing better themselves. I try to limit my public venting of the problems I have with GW for precisely that reason; I wouldn't be able to do better myself. If you knew me, you'd no without doubt that I have nothing but respect for an individual's entitlement to have, and voice, their opinion, but that's the problem with internet forums; people don't know each other. Which is a shame.

"My point is, those who are saying it's 'just badly written' (and I

admit, I probably should have been more specific there) are almost

certainly incapable of doing better themselves. I try to limit my public

venting of the problems I have with GW for precisely that reason; I

wouldn't be able to do better myself. If you knew me, you'd no without

doubt that I have nothing but respect for an individual's entitlement to

have, and voice, their opinion, but that's the problem with internet

forums; people don't know each other. Which is a shame."

No offence taken - but remember that this line of reasoning is dubious. If, say, a surgeon botches his job, shouldn't we call it for what it is just because we wouldn't have been able to do any better?

Now I do agree that the criticism of Ward's fluff shouldn't degrade into hatred towards Ward as a person. This I do find most distasteful and uncalled for. However, I see nothing wrong with criticism of his writing, as long as it doesn't cross that line. Personally I like some of his stuff - the Newcrons, for example, and that bit about the GKs bringing something *nasty* along with them from the Warp. However, the fact that much of his work does generate so much vitriol strongly implies that there is something wrong with it on some level.

And as for this

"when no-one is turning round and saying "Hey I know bull:cuss because I'm a cattle farmer"

Well, I *still* don't know how to properly edit quotes on this new forum

If a surgeon botches the job, there are unlikely to be any who disagree with the assessment, save perhaps the surgeon himself/herself. There are also likely to be valid, well argued reasons given as to why the job was botched. Then again, I know myself well enough to admit there's a decent chance that I wouldn't find any reason to be valid or well-argued. Perhaps the issue here is me, as a fan of the fluff. Wouldn't be the first time.

The reference to my bulls and cattle farmers quote, I'm not sure I understand your point there. I don't know how to edit quotes either. I tend to just quote the whole post

[Visitor13]

It's just that, as you say, people don't tend to admit that they don't know something. And I'm just admitting I don't understand quoting here, even though it most likely is childishly simple

[boreas]

@visitor13: the botched surgery is not a good exemple. If a surgeon botches a surgery, courts or the hospital's professionnal director won't give a damn about "non-experts" think. They'll consult other surgeons (who might exactly have done the job better). If ADB came here and said "Draigo's fluff is badly writtent" (which of course he won't do for obvious reasons), I'd take that in consideration.

[thade]

I turn away for but a moment and the gloves come off. Time for a time out. <3

If there are requests to reopen it, I will in a few days. But things are getting a bit heated in here, so I think it's best if we all cool our heads for a bit.