[TA]Typher Posted May 2, 2013 Share Posted May 2, 2013 Hi guys, I don't have any of my books right now, just using battlescribe to make an army. Anyway I was thinking.. the signums rule states that the person with the Signum Foregos shooting to grant one other model in his unit BS 5, declare before any rolls are made. This is the description in battlescribe... So hopefully it's correct. anyway, can you use that while snapshotting? I was just thinking this would be nice to use against fliers. Of course it's battlescribe so it could be wrong. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/274866-signums-and-snapshots/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
cielaq Posted May 2, 2013 Share Posted May 2, 2013 FAQ: Q: Can the BS1 of a Snap Shot ever be modified by special rules that modify the BS of a model’s Shooting attack (such as Space Marine Signums or Sergeant Telion’s Voice of Experience)? (p13) A: No. Obviously, Tau markerlights are exception... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/274866-signums-and-snapshots/#findComment-3362457 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dswanick Posted May 2, 2013 Share Posted May 2, 2013 No, that's a pretty accurate description. It should also work exactly as you describe(BRB, pg.7). But, it doesn't(BRB FAQ). GW says only Tau Markerlights can threaten their precious Flyer model sales. :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/274866-signums-and-snapshots/#findComment-3362459 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[TA]Typher Posted May 2, 2013 Author Share Posted May 2, 2013 FAQ: Q: Can the BS1 of a Snap Shot ever be modified by special rules that modify the BS of a model’s Shooting attack (such as Space Marine Signums or Sergeant Telion’s Voice of Experience)? (p13) A: No. Obviously, Tau markerlights are exception... Thx! That saves me the headache of waiting to get home to check. Figures that the cheesy blue fish people would get a pass. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/274866-signums-and-snapshots/#findComment-3362461 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayJ Posted May 2, 2013 Share Posted May 2, 2013 I don't know why they made that ruling. Prior to that, you simply rolled off to see which takes precedence, since both are set value modifiers (as per BRB). Sometimes game designers get a case of the dumb. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/274866-signums-and-snapshots/#findComment-3362556 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother dean Posted May 2, 2013 Share Posted May 2, 2013 yes but the cheesy blue fish people markerlights only bump 1BS per markerlight, and markerlights have to be fired at BS1 (snapshot) to hit fliers in the first place. Big difference in 1 markerlight = BS2 vs a signum at BS5 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/274866-signums-and-snapshots/#findComment-3362583 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigGumbo Posted May 2, 2013 Share Posted May 2, 2013 yes but the cheesy blue fish people markerlights only bump 1BS per markerlight, and markerlights have to be fired at BS1 (snapshot) to hit fliers in the first place. Big difference in 1 markerlight = BS2 vs a signum at BS5 Must confess I hadn't really registered that the Signum was specifically BS5, rather than +1BS. Had always assumed it didn't affect snapshots, though, so no harm done... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/274866-signums-and-snapshots/#findComment-3362702 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[TA]Typher Posted May 2, 2013 Author Share Posted May 2, 2013 yes but the cheesy blue fish people markerlights only bump 1BS per markerlight, and markerlights have to be fired at BS1 (snapshot) to hit fliers in the first place. Big difference in 1 markerlight = BS2 vs a signum at BS5 True, but ony ONE marine gets that BS, where the EVERYONE in unit of Tau get the increase. 15 fire warriors (or broadsides..etc etc ) shooting at BS 2 vs 1 shot from a marine. OR a unit of marker lights shoots next at BS 2.. what are the chances of boosting the BS even higher? I played a game the other day where they had so many marker lights that they used marker lights ON marker lights. I pretty much NEVER got a cover save, and most of their shots were only missing on 1s. Cheesiest game I've ever played. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/274866-signums-and-snapshots/#findComment-3362824 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Immolator Posted May 2, 2013 Share Posted May 2, 2013 Yo daug! We heard that you like marker lights, so we put marker lights on your marker lights, so you can spot marines while you spot marines! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/274866-signums-and-snapshots/#findComment-3362857 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jehoel Posted May 2, 2013 Share Posted May 2, 2013 Does the markerlight boost to BS stack? That would be unusual as i remember it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/274866-signums-and-snapshots/#findComment-3362921 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disruptor_fe404 Posted May 2, 2013 Share Posted May 2, 2013 It does. Written into the rules. Markerlights are the Tau's schtick though, so it makes sense for them to get the pass. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/274866-signums-and-snapshots/#findComment-3362927 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[TA]Typher Posted May 3, 2013 Author Share Posted May 3, 2013 It does. Written into the rules. Markerlights are the Tau's schtick though, so it makes sense for them to get the pass. I thought having better troop weapons was there schtick? And now supporting fire is there schtick? .....not alot of branches left on whatever tree they are getting all these schticks from. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/274866-signums-and-snapshots/#findComment-3362995 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disruptor_fe404 Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 Eye of the beholder, I guess! Do I detect envy, in your tone? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/274866-signums-and-snapshots/#findComment-3363008 Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndigoJack Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 It does. Written into the rules. Markerlights are the Tau's schtick though, so it makes sense for them to get the pass. I thought having better troop weapons was there schtick? And now supporting fire is there schtick? .....not alot of branches left on whatever tree they are getting all these schticks from. Superior weapons have always been there schtick IMO, and markerlights fall under that same category. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/274866-signums-and-snapshots/#findComment-3363134 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gillyfish Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 Ahem. Dark Angels' board, NOT Tau board. ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/274866-signums-and-snapshots/#findComment-3363164 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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