TheReclusiarch Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 Hello all! As we all know, the left shoulder pad on codex adherant Space Marines is used to show off the chapter symbol. Is this something you do, and if you do, how do you go about showing it? Do you buy shoulderpads with already modelled symbols? Do you use transfers? Do you paint it yourself? This is especially interesting to know from people who have your own homebrewed chapter with no ready to buy shoulderpads to go with them.I'm on a eternal quest to find good shoulderpads for my chapter, but for now, I have had no luck, so I'm looking for you for inspiriation. :) Sincerely, Reclusiarch Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/274925-what-do-you-use-to-show-your-chapter-symbol/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firepower Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 All freehand painting here :) It can be a royal pain, frankly. Sometimes it takes practice, such as the crosses for my Templars which got significantly better and easier to make as time went on. I had shoulderpads with crosses molded onto them, naturally, but I made sure to have a freehand pad on every single one of them for the sake of distinction and character. Other times I bite off more than I can chew by making it too complicated and/or hard to replicate, as I did with a DIY years back which had a serpent forming a mobius strip for a symbol, and a BA project I abandoned with a very complicated winged eye symbol. I try not to do that anymore. My newly made Broken Arrows, for instance, have had a supremely simple symbol since I first thought them up as an IA for that very reason. ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/274925-what-do-you-use-to-show-your-chapter-symbol/#findComment-3363560 Share on other sites More sharing options...
berzerkermike84 Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 thanks to B/C i have been making transfers for my csm. for my chapter its a black skull, but when we where able to order bits i would order skull shoulder pads. now with the transfers i put them all over along with chaos stars and what nots. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/274925-what-do-you-use-to-show-your-chapter-symbol/#findComment-3363566 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrandMagnus Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 Freehand all the way here. I can never get used to decals and I unly really like the already sculpted pads if its for a character and I want it simple or to be "perfect". Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/274925-what-do-you-use-to-show-your-chapter-symbol/#findComment-3363567 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Guyus Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 Well, so far for my crimson fists, I have used a mix of moulded pads and some etched brass, though I'm trying to improve my painting to a point where I can free hand my symbols. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/274925-what-do-you-use-to-show-your-chapter-symbol/#findComment-3363572 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Yellow Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 All freehand painting here It can be a royal pain, frankly. Sometimes it takes practice, such as the crosses for my Templars which got significantly better and easier to make as time went on. I had shoulderpads with crosses molded onto them, naturally, but I made sure to have a freehand pad on every single one of them for the sake of distinction and character. Other times I bite off more than I can chew by making it too complicated and/or hard to replicate, as I did with a DIY years back which had a serpent forming a mobius strip for a symbol, and a BA project I abandoned with a very complicated winged eye symbol. I try not to do that anymore. My newly made Broken Arrows, for instance, have had a supremely simple symbol since I first thought them up as an IA for that very reason. Yup Free hand, welcome to my world. To be honest it's the most trying part of painting my guys, I would do another chapter but I am way to far down the line to change now. Wish I could go back in time and tell me not to. If anybody invents a time machine..... That said it does look good when finished. What sort of symbol are you going for? I used to get the plastic ba specific shoulder pads with the round section in the middle and scrape the crap off and paint checks round it. Now it's all completely free hand. Though I think chapter house are doing lamenter shoulder pads. Cheers LM Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/274925-what-do-you-use-to-show-your-chapter-symbol/#findComment-3363608 Share on other sites More sharing options...
deathspectersgt7 Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 Decals- moulded and if I'M DESPERATE freehand . Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/274925-what-do-you-use-to-show-your-chapter-symbol/#findComment-3363617 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peredyne Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 Decals mostly for my Minotaurs, with some forge world resin and etched brass added in here and there. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/274925-what-do-you-use-to-show-your-chapter-symbol/#findComment-3363642 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aqui Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 For my DIY Chapters freehand, although for my Steel Wings I did consider using either DA or BA shoulder guards and adjusting them. The few examples of Canon/"official" Chapters I have I use molded ones. When I finally get around to starting Iron Hands, I'll be using molded ones as well. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/274925-what-do-you-use-to-show-your-chapter-symbol/#findComment-3363658 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disruptor_fe404 Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 My Chapter has no Chapter symbol, and so they leave the left shoulder pad blank (right shoulder pad on Terminators). In fact, one might even go so far as to say that the blank pad is their Chapter symbol... That being said, I would much prefer sculpted pads, but I would not be afraid of mixing it up and using a decal here and there. Plus, it would depend on your Chapter. For example, I doubt that sculpted pads are a common occurrence in the Raptors outside of the Chapter's upper echelons. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/274925-what-do-you-use-to-show-your-chapter-symbol/#findComment-3363662 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorenzen Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 decals & sculpted pads, custom made decals for the fire angels, fw transfers for the death guard. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/274925-what-do-you-use-to-show-your-chapter-symbol/#findComment-3363665 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madwolf Shadowmane Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 The Hounds have greenstuff Chapter badges. I made a simple push mold so I can reproduce them. Madwolf Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/274925-what-do-you-use-to-show-your-chapter-symbol/#findComment-3363666 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durus Posted May 4, 2013 Share Posted May 4, 2013 Painted everything on with my first DIY. I never got a single decal to sit flat on a shoulderpad and eventually came to appreaciate to opportunity for a little customisation on each marine. Also had a go at casting my own. Picked a few things up I'd do different with the moulds now. But overall pretty awesome. I also considered using vector based images to have them plotted in vinyl foil at one point, but I don't work with that stuff anymore. Never got around to try it. Would probably work better for vehicles than pads anyway but still, whould have like to try it at least. So if I were to start another army, I'd just cast my own pads. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/274925-what-do-you-use-to-show-your-chapter-symbol/#findComment-3363915 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grotsmasha Posted May 4, 2013 Share Posted May 4, 2013 Lamenter does commission Chapter symbol sculps where he sculpts PA, TDA and Tank sized symbols and then creates a blue stuff mould from which you create greenstuff casts. Chevk out army310's Dark Wolves in the WIP forum to ser what I mean. Cheers, Jono Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/274925-what-do-you-use-to-show-your-chapter-symbol/#findComment-3363931 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheReclusiarch Posted May 4, 2013 Author Share Posted May 4, 2013 Thanks everyone for your answers! Freehand seem to be fairly popular, but I think I lack the skill to do anything that I would be comfortable with myself. :) Grotsmasha, Lamenter did some really nice stuff, but it seems he no longer is open for commissons; a shame! For me? Well, I've tried Puppetswar (awesome guys, just don't have the icons I'm looking for), Scibor miniatures (too large it seems, even the small shoulder pads?), custom minis (the propotions are too flat) and Chapter house studios (the quality seem to be lacking a bit). Just have to keep looking! Any suggestions? Have you perhaps bought some molded shoulder pads from some awesome but obscure store and used as chapter symbol? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/274925-what-do-you-use-to-show-your-chapter-symbol/#findComment-3363948 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dedlok Posted May 10, 2013 Share Posted May 10, 2013 With this exact issue in mind, I've deliberately created a symbol for my DIY chapter, the Blooded Hands, which incorporates elements of existing symbols, so a little combining of decals of extra freehand painting on ready moulded symbols is all that is required, in order to speed up the whole modelling/painting process. My symbol is based on a fist icon with a blood drop imposed over it, not tremendously exciting, but easy to reproduce and representative of my chapter name. For larger examples of it, on vehicles and such like, I've used Imperial/Crimson Fists decals, and hand painted the blood drop on top. For shoulder pads, so far I have got some IF terminator pads from forge world, and added the drop with green stuff, which worked pretty well. http://velken0027.deviantart.com/art/Assault-Terminator-Sgt-367252178 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/274925-what-do-you-use-to-show-your-chapter-symbol/#findComment-3368361 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artemid Posted May 12, 2013 Share Posted May 12, 2013 I've been doing Dark Angels with the FW transfer sheet. Once I got my hands on Micro Sol and Micro Set it started working really well. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/274925-what-do-you-use-to-show-your-chapter-symbol/#findComment-3369291 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toxichobbit Posted May 12, 2013 Share Posted May 12, 2013 I tend to use decals, but I paint over them, using them as a guide for freehand. if I didn't paint over them, they would look odd against my painting style, as the armour would be shaded from a zenithal point while the transfer would be a flat colour. I have occasionally used molded pads on characters, but on the whole I don't like the molded pads for Ultramarines. However, it's not all decals. I often mix up how I present stuff like the chapter symbol and squad markings, so when i'm being a bit more unorthodox it's all freehand. I also use brass etch symbols for the chapter symbol on other parts of the armour, but not for the shoulders as it's just easier to seat a decal to the curved surface than it is to seat a brass ultima. My Minotaurs ... when I finally get into them ... will be a mix of molded pads for characters/veterans and decals/brass etch pads for normal brothers, with some freehand unique heraldry and patterning scattered around. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/274925-what-do-you-use-to-show-your-chapter-symbol/#findComment-3369626 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kronus Stormbringer Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 Forge world decals for my Iron Hands and I print my own transfers for my Sons of Medusa, I always use Micro Sol/Set on the transfers too to make sure that they lay down properly on the surface that they are placed, then a coat of varnish and weather them up.... lazy I know but it works for me :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/274925-what-do-you-use-to-show-your-chapter-symbol/#findComment-3372629 Share on other sites More sharing options...
deathspectersgt7 Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 Micro Sol/Set , decals forge world some sculpted pads ,soon will try printing my own-see how bad I'll screw that up. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/274925-what-do-you-use-to-show-your-chapter-symbol/#findComment-3372757 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurgan the Lurker Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 Vultures and Ruminators get decals, OrksBane I use an old Chaos pad from GW. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/274925-what-do-you-use-to-show-your-chapter-symbol/#findComment-3374181 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenith Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 Freehand, baby. Just practice, practice, practice. http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk141/Mechxen/Omega%20Marines/31518_md-40000BlackOmegaSpaceSpaceM.jpg http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk141/Mechxen/Blood%20Angels/PC220405.jpg http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk141/Mechxen/Blood%20Angels/PC220406.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/274925-what-do-you-use-to-show-your-chapter-symbol/#findComment-3376516 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retributis Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 I've freehanded them recently due to using converted DV marines and so incorporated some bits of the DA symbol. I'm currently painting a new one in PS so I can print some decals off and use those - I may remove the hand painted one but not sure yet. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/274925-what-do-you-use-to-show-your-chapter-symbol/#findComment-3376519 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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