Deamons Redeemer Posted May 4, 2013 Share Posted May 4, 2013 ok so the DC, do they play good or not worth the points? i may have a nice deal on a few boxes but if i can't use them, maybe i'll buy them to make normal angel assaulty's Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/274956-dc-worth-taking-or-not/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Rainbow Posted May 4, 2013 Share Posted May 4, 2013 Worth it just for the bits and to use as RAS. Although I think drop pod DC can have a use along with a pod'ing fragioso. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/274956-dc-worth-taking-or-not/#findComment-3364004 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quixus Posted May 4, 2013 Share Posted May 4, 2013 Worth it just for the bits and to use as RAS. Although I think drop pod DC can have a use along with a pod'ing fragioso.Wouldn't you need at least 3 pods to have two arrive on the same turn? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/274956-dc-worth-taking-or-not/#findComment-3364019 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morticon Posted May 4, 2013 Share Posted May 4, 2013 Incredible for their points. The abilities they get for 20 points is just awesome. Strongly recommend them. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/274956-dc-worth-taking-or-not/#findComment-3364031 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquisitor Eisenhorn Posted May 4, 2013 Share Posted May 4, 2013 I second Morticon. I feel like the only thing I do on this thread lately is remind people how awesome DC are. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/274956-dc-worth-taking-or-not/#findComment-3364046 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deamons Redeemer Posted May 4, 2013 Author Share Posted May 4, 2013 ok then i'll make that deal ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/274956-dc-worth-taking-or-not/#findComment-3364160 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zynk Kaladin Posted May 4, 2013 Share Posted May 4, 2013 Good man. The DC box is great for angely bits. I'm kinda jealous you found a good deal :I Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/274956-dc-worth-taking-or-not/#findComment-3364187 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heiliger Posted May 4, 2013 Share Posted May 4, 2013 They still work quite well, I really enjoy them, they just aren't as point and click as they were in 5th. The loss of +1I from furious charge really hurt. They won't eat everything they hit if you want to take on another CC hammer you need to support them and you need the charge. Atleast in my experience. If they are charging a utility unit or shoot enjoy... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/274956-dc-worth-taking-or-not/#findComment-3364284 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deamons Redeemer Posted May 5, 2013 Author Share Posted May 5, 2013 yeah its a good buy :) 5x DC boxes and he has 3x spacepup termi boxes and 8x spacepup pack boxes for a cheap price :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/274956-dc-worth-taking-or-not/#findComment-3364529 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAHERSH Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 Nice, well definitely grab them. Look into using the DC models for DC as well (you can always use them as AM's or Veterans as mentioned above). DC are relatively cheap (20 pts a model) if you don't upgrade much. Just add like 1 P FIst for 10 guys) and they absolutely dominate on the charge. The only downside is finding a way to get them into combat (usually requires a LR or Raven). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/274956-dc-worth-taking-or-not/#findComment-3367139 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deamons Redeemer Posted May 9, 2013 Author Share Posted May 9, 2013 Nice, well definitely grab them. Look into using the DC models for DC as well (you can always use them as AM's or Veterans as mentioned above). DC are relatively cheap (20 pts a model) if you don't upgrade much. Just add like 1 P FIst for 10 guys) and they absolutely dominate on the charge. The only downside is finding a way to get them into combat (usually requires a LR or Raven). THE idea is for them to go in a pod of i field them, or play them DOA Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/274956-dc-worth-taking-or-not/#findComment-3367461 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenith Posted May 9, 2013 Share Posted May 9, 2013 THE idea is for them to go in a pod of i field them, or play them DOA Don't play them DoA. DoA armies usually end up exactly that: Dead on Arrival. Assault troops are much better served by starting on the table. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/274956-dc-worth-taking-or-not/#findComment-3367624 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deamons Redeemer Posted May 9, 2013 Author Share Posted May 9, 2013 THE idea is for them to go in a pod of i field them, or play them DOA Don't play them DoA. DoA armies usually end up exactly that: Dead on Arrival. Assault troops are much better served by starting on the table. The tactical advice is accepted brother. No DOA THE idea is for them to go in a pod of i field them, or play them DOA Don't play them DoA. DoA armies usually end up exactly that: Dead on Arrival. Assault troops are much better served by starting on the table. The tactical advice is accepted brother. No DOA Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/274956-dc-worth-taking-or-not/#findComment-3367766 Share on other sites More sharing options...
I am Legion Posted May 9, 2013 Share Posted May 9, 2013 The way I see it, DC is one of our best units. Its always good to use anything that guarantees lots of damage. And with FNP they will probably last till the end of the game. Ive honestly been considering using the JPs on them with 2 PSs and a fist. Yeah its expensive, but add the 2 RAS units with a priest and JP libbie, and you have a good core. Leave a cheap scout or tax squad to grab 2 objectives and fill the rest with Baal preds and vindicators or storm ravens... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/274956-dc-worth-taking-or-not/#findComment-3367779 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demulos Posted May 10, 2013 Share Posted May 10, 2013 Excellent unit, they just require protection from instagibs. Transports are a must, Stormraven are great for 5 jumpers and a Chaplain. Landraiders for infantry or Rhinos if you are limited in points. The main objective is to get them into close combat as quickly and safely as possible. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/274956-dc-worth-taking-or-not/#findComment-3368108 Share on other sites More sharing options...
exetus Posted May 10, 2013 Share Posted May 10, 2013 I second DOA being a bad idea for anything other than an Apocalypse battle where you can have your allies as a buffer while you DS behind enemy lines en-masse. As for Death Company, I have found that they are still a strong CC unit, but even more than that, they inspire fear in many of your opponents. I have seen entire armies shift their battle plans from the arrival of the Death Company. If the game is big enough, I like to throw them into a Stormraven with a DC dread as support. The Stormraven gives them some fire support while the DC dread handles the big guys and supports them in CC. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/274956-dc-worth-taking-or-not/#findComment-3368296 Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortysl Posted May 10, 2013 Share Posted May 10, 2013 ok so the DC, do they play good or not worth the points? i may have a nice deal on a few boxes but if i can't use them, maybe i'll buy them to make normal angel assaulty's They are the bane of my existence when I play against my mate's Flesh Tearers. I have considered a Blood Angel army a number of times on the merit of their performance alone. If you can get a good deal, buy them. Now. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/274956-dc-worth-taking-or-not/#findComment-3368301 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quixus Posted May 10, 2013 Share Posted May 10, 2013 Stormraven are great for 5 jumpers and a Chaplain.Once you decide to use such a unit, why not invest a couple of points extra to get 5 DC + Lemartes? He does not use another FOC slot, has better stats at least after taking a wound (too bad I6 is all but wasted on him), and cannot be singled out in a challenge (unless some update gave him the character rule). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/274956-dc-worth-taking-or-not/#findComment-3368320 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadpool1713 Posted May 10, 2013 Share Posted May 10, 2013 They still work quite well, I really enjoy them, they just aren't as point and click as they were in 5th. The loss of +1I from furious charge really hurt. They won't eat everything they hit if you want to take on another CC hammer you need to support them and you need the charge. Atleast in my experience. If they are charging a utility unit or shoot enjoy... I like the changes to rage, you can have the DC go where you want them now. Do you prefer the old 5E rage? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/274956-dc-worth-taking-or-not/#findComment-3368442 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deamons Redeemer Posted May 10, 2013 Author Share Posted May 10, 2013 i was planning to take : 6 men DC squad , with either a Dpod or JP, 2x power fist, 1 thunder hammer, infernus pistol 8 men DC squad with Dpod, 3 fists, plasmapistol, 3 hammers Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/274956-dc-worth-taking-or-not/#findComment-3368519 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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