Space Marine Chapters and Their Workings

[Conn Eremon]

40k lightsabers. Not automatically awesome. I don't understand you, Gripharius.

[Octavulg]

It's simple. Lightsabers in places one does not expect them makes people think of the Star Wars prequels. And that makes people sad.

 

THANKS FOR MAKING PEOPLE SAD, CORMAC.

[Gripharius]

Duh! Everyone knows you need The Force to make a real light saber work. Light sabers with The Force are just dumb.

 

And the Star Wars prequels do make me sad. Very, very sad.

 

On a happier note, I'm pretty sure there is a suit of Tactical Dreadnought Armor in Iron Man 3. Or maybe that's another sad note. I'm confused now.

 

THANKS FOR MAKING ME CONFUSED, TONY STARK.

[XKhalilX]

Light sabers? This ain't Battlestar Galactica, Captain Kirk.

HAHAHA love it! only nerds like us can truly appreciate that sentence.

[Conn Eremon]

But lightsabers were expected in the Prequ-HOWISTHISMYFAULT.

[Octavulg]

Not in the fashion in which they were used, Cormac. Nobody expected a walking lightsaber Cuisinart.

 

YOU KNOW WHAT YOU DID, CORMAC.

[Conn Eremon]

True, the idea of calm, measured lightsaber duels that was more a contest of wills was a lot cooler than the CGI'd acrobatics we ended up getting, butwaitaminute.

 

JESUS, JUST BECAUSE WE SHARE A HOMETOWN DOESN'T MEAN I'M HIM. HE NEVER EVEN VISITS.

[XKhalilX]

i feel bad for mark hamill. the man is probably in his 60's and now has to perform up to the prequel standards of lightsaber combat.

 

i personally enjoy the acrobatics as well as the old duels. However Hamill and Ford are gonna have to get in shape BIG TIME.

[Gripharius]

I abhor CGI.  It's right up there with xenos, heretics and traitors in my personal Imperial Creed. 

 

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HAHAHA love it! only nerds like us can truly appreciate that sentence

Those were fairly mainstream sci-fi references.  If I wanted to really show the nerd-love, I would have gone with something like "This an't Battlefield Earth, Buckaroo Banzai."

[soddinnutter]

Battlefield Earth

You reminded me of that abortion of a film. You have no idea of how much I am hating you right now. Khorne is King Calm by comparison. Captain Wrothnik McHugerage of the Angry Marines can not equal my hate of all those screen wipes. I hate humanity for producing that unholy mess of a film and envy the dead that they might never know such wooden acting and abysmal diolouge. My displeasure at you at this moment makes that time when an ork stole Khan the Betrayers pet kitten seem like a picnic because you had to remind me about all of the time the camera was on an angle or had a green filter on it. You know that time when Angron got locked out of the Brass Citadel and had to sleep in the Juggernaut Pen? He was not more angry than I am at this moment now I remember the god awful conclusion to that film. I can not express to you fully how much I despise that film. If I was to spend time in solitary confinement I would sooner bite open a vein and doodle on the walls in my own blood to alleviate the dull than watch that travesty.

I am a little vexed that that memory, nearly blurred and drunk into surly oblivion, is now back in such sharp focus.

Hate. Let me tell you how much I've come to hate you since you mentioned Battlefield Earth. There are many miles of blood vessels that fill my body. If the word 'hate' was engraved on each capillaries of those many miles it would not equal one one-billionth of the hate I feel for humans at this micro-instant. For you. Hate. Hate.

[Conn Eremon]

So . . . I take it you won't be watching the upcoming sequel?

 

 

I am, of course, kidding. Honestly scared myself a little with the idea.

 

[soddinnutter]

So . . . I take it you won't be watching the upcoming sequel?

I am, of course, kidding. Honestly scared myself a little with the idea.

[Gripharius]

You reminded me of that abortion of a film.

Wow, if Battlefield Earth sets you off, I'd hate to see what would happen if I said: Rollerball. Or Daredevil. Or Aeon Flux. Or Highlander II, III, or IV.

 

Batman and Robin. Alone in the Dark. The Phantom. Congo. BloodRayne. Streetfighter. The Postman. The Island of Dr. Moreau. Beastmaster 2. Stealth. Doom.

 

Shall I go on?

[exetus]

Gripharius should receive a lifelong "mute" button for that...

[XKhalilX]

rollerball with James Caan or the remake? cuz the original is pretty good

[exetus]

Considering the company that it's mentioned with, I'm going to say the remake.

[XKhalilX]

Island of Dr. Moreau wasnt THAT bad. the storyline at least was interesting (on paper anyway). I alawys found the highlander movies to be so absolutely boring. Postman made me sad when they ate his donkey. battlefield earth was comical, everything else mentioned i never saw.

 

give me star wars, blade runner and dune and im a happy camper. especially dune. greatest books and universe ever created. even more then the Grimdark 41st millenium where there is only war.

 

i think the sardukar could destory IG. And the Fedaykin of Muad'dib? They could take on Spess mehrins anyday.

 

and muad'dib could take on the Emperor of Mankind himself.

 

*runs from the flaming torches and pitchforks*

[FlamingDeth]

On a happier note, I'm pretty sure there is a suit of Tactical Dreadnought Armor in Iron Man 3. Or maybe that's another sad note. I'm confused now.

 

THANKS FOR MAKING ME CONFUSED, TONY STARK.

Pretty sure that was some Hulkbuster armor, one of those things that never actually works quite as we'll as he'd like.

[Gripharius]

 

Pretty sure that was some Hulkbuster armor, one of those things that never actually works quite as we'll as he'd like.

He had a name for it, but I forgot it.  I just thought it looked very much like Terminator Armor.  Games Workshop will probably sue to protect its IP.  :)       

[Conn Eremon]

I think he called it Quasimodo or something. Can't really remember. It's clearly based off of the old Hulk Buster armors, though it may not have been devised in the movies for the same purposes. I always thought they were one of Stark's dumber ideas. When the Hulk starts rampaging and you need something to meet that threat, your solution should not be to try to meet him head to head in a contest of strength. The Hulk wins those fights. The Hulk wins all those fights. Stark would be better off in his normal suit, using speed and agility to his advantage. Not going up to him and getting into a slug fest to see who can stay conscious the longest. Even after seeing him go up against Sentry in World War Hulk, still they underestimate the big green dude. Why, I don't know.

 

And yeah, it there are a few similarities in appearance between it and terminator suits but come on. GW doesn't just sue people at the drop of a hat. Stop bandwagoning.

[Koremu]

Getting back to Geneseed and things related;

 

It was implied in earlier material (I think 2nd Edition Codex Ultras) that you could get more than one new Marine per harvested Progenoid

 

The Progenoid has also been implied to have other functions than just replication - it's also a regulating and regenerating organ. This is one reason the second one is usually left in the Marine.

 

The Chest progenoid is not easy to get out. You have to go through the ribcage to get it. If this doesn't strike you as a problem, then re-read what the Ossmodula does. There's a reason the apothecary carries a chainsword attachment on his reductor.

 

Not every tabletop casualty is a dead marine. Only those killed by Instant Death mechanics are guaranteed deceased (and probably gibbed to boot). High-power weapons (Power Weapons, AP1&2 weapons) are likely severely injured and may be dead, but a Marine shot by an ordinary gun should simply be incapacitated.

 

It must be remembered that Marines have far higher rates of survival when wounded than ordinary humans. Easily half their implants are not designed to make them more effective combatants, but to make them survive injury. Their immune system is proof against most infection, their pain tolerance and hypnotic control of their physiology makes them nearly immune to shock, their second heart & lung make it nearly impossible to kill them by organ destruction, oxygen starvation or drawning, and the Larraman cells make bleeding out absolutely impossible. A marine who steps on a anti-tank land-mine will probably need a new leg, but he'll almost certainly be back in combat as soon as that bionic replacement beds in. The Black Carapace makes marines adapt to bionic replacements as easily as wearing their own armour.

 

Marine death rates will be way, way lower than any normal human unit because of this. If it doesn't kill a marine outright, he'll probably be back.

[Disruptor_fe404]

I like to think that my tabletop Marines don't actually die unless they died to something that would Instant Death them.

[XKhalilX]

i thought larramen allowed for slower bleeding. not outright stopping bleeding.

 

while i agree in your assesment to a degree, i dont think marines are THAT super human. we read about marines being cut down left and right in the books.

[Koremu]

i thought larramen allowed for slower bleeding. not outright stopping bleeding.

 

while i agree in your assesment to a degree, i dont think marines are THAT super human. we read about marines being cut down left and right in the books.

Every source has always said "instant scar tissue".

 

And death-by-drama causes Instant Death, did you not know that?

[soddinnutter]

You reminded me of that abortion of a film.

Wow, if Battlefield Earth sets you off, I'd hate to see what would happen if I said: Rollerball. Or Daredevil. Or Aeon Flux. Or Highlander II, III, or IV.

Batman and Robin. Alone in the Dark. The Phantom. Congo. BloodRayne. Streetfighter. The Postman. The Island of Dr. Moreau. Beastmaster 2. Stealth. Doom.

Shall I go on?