alloyslayer Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 I have 70 points to spare in my list so I was looking for ways to use it and I stumbled upon the xeno inquisitor with conversion Beamer, has anyone used this unit and what have your experiences been? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/275123-xenos-inquisitor/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gentlemanloser Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 Shave an extra 10 off somewhere and get an OM Inq in TDA with a Psycannon. Some swear by Conversion Beamers, but they've always been lack luster for me. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/275123-xenos-inquisitor/#findComment-3366393 Share on other sites More sharing options...
alloyslayer Posted May 7, 2013 Author Share Posted May 7, 2013 I'm looking to get a bit of long range shooting so the tda inquisitor wouldn't be a good fit to hang back with my strikes Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/275123-xenos-inquisitor/#findComment-3366416 Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndigoJack Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 The conversion beamer is one of those weapons that sound great but in practice really isn't. at >42", there are too many things that can block LoS to make it really effective, not to mention that range only really works turn 1 or 2. As the game goes on, there are going to be more and more things that can block LoS (assuming you're not going against a pure gunline), making the effect range shorter. Unfortunately, a S8 blast isn't really great unless it has some kind or re-roll and that involves either another psyker (w/ prescience) hanging out with him for that or spending an additional 30 points to make him a psyker to grant the re-roll. At that point, you might as well go for am OMI w/ psycannon for more reliable firepower. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/275123-xenos-inquisitor/#findComment-3366448 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gentlemanloser Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 Why have strikes as a long range shooting unit? If you want a Scoring unit with an Inquisitor, and long range shooting, take Coteaz and 3 Plasma Cannon Servitors. Coteaz is a straigt swap point wise for the 5 Strikes, and you're left with change after the Servitors. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/275123-xenos-inquisitor/#findComment-3366478 Share on other sites More sharing options...
alloyslayer Posted May 7, 2013 Author Share Posted May 7, 2013 The strikes are my home objective holders so I was looking at something to join them and give a bit of a boost to them Not a big fan of coteaz though :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/275123-xenos-inquisitor/#findComment-3366498 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gentlemanloser Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 Go cheaper with an Inquisitor and a Hellrifle. Not great, but for the points you might as well give the Strikes a Psybolt Razorback. They can sit in it / use it to block LoS to them. And you get a 36" range gun. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/275123-xenos-inquisitor/#findComment-3366520 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thade Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 The strikes are my home objective holders so I was looking at something to join them and give a bit of a boost to them In general I see "home objective holders" to be too much wasted potential; in order to win a match, you need only hold one more objective than your opponent (well, except for that new "some objectives are worth more points than others" mode, but still) and leaving a unit "back at home" is a lot of wasted fire power. That's not as big an issue with GK since Storm Bolters and Psycannons all engage at half-the-table's width, but still something to keep in mind. This is a tactical aside, I realize; but something I think on often with my primary army (which engages most effectively at rapid-fire range). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/275123-xenos-inquisitor/#findComment-3366521 Share on other sites More sharing options...
alloyslayer Posted May 7, 2013 Author Share Posted May 7, 2013 I see strikes as objective holders and terminators as objective takers, which is why my strikes and inq will secure my objective and my terminators will capture/deny the others Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/275123-xenos-inquisitor/#findComment-3366539 Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndigoJack Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 I don't really see strikes as good backfield objective holders. There are a lot of armies that are perfectly content to blast you away outside of 24", making strikes guns useless. IMO, they're just too expensive to sit back and hope the enemy moves within 24" of you. This probably comes down to play style though. I prefer a more aggressive approach, and take the fight to midfield where I can comfortably hit almost anything on the board (except for hammer and anvil). I even place objectives aggressively, more often placing most of mine midfield where I can both hold it down and fire at my opponents army. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/275123-xenos-inquisitor/#findComment-3366653 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gentlemanloser Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 Once again, if your Strikes do anything as a home objective holder, they only have 24" range. In which case an OMI in TDA with a Psycannon has the same range as them. Personally, I'd ally in some SM scouts for home objective holders. Unless you're facing Helldrakes. And who doesn't have a Helldrake these days... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/275123-xenos-inquisitor/#findComment-3366680 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stercus Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 Best use of a Conversion Beamer is to give one to a Master of the Forge and put him on a bike. Relentless means he can whiz around at speed and snipe targets from range for most of the game. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/275123-xenos-inquisitor/#findComment-3366698 Share on other sites More sharing options...
alloyslayer Posted May 8, 2013 Author Share Posted May 8, 2013 All good tips guys but I'll try them out Friday and go from there Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/275123-xenos-inquisitor/#findComment-3366715 Share on other sites More sharing options...
VVolf Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 I use a xeno/inq with plas servitors backing up my draigowing. 2x dreads for objective holding or fire support and strikes for mid field attack/ pulling back to hold my side if needed. I've found he depends on the other parts of your list to make him effective. Every1 runs from draigo and the beamer picks 'em off. Servitors are ablative and provide plenty of pie plates to deal with termies if needed. So far i've killed a foot tyrant and baal predator first turn with my beamer out of the 2 games i've played. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/275123-xenos-inquisitor/#findComment-3366777 Share on other sites More sharing options...
alloyslayer Posted May 8, 2013 Author Share Posted May 8, 2013 Thanks vwolf! That's the kinda thing I was hoping to hear, do you give the inquisitor pml1? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/275123-xenos-inquisitor/#findComment-3366796 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reclusiarch Darius Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 Thanks vwolf! That's the kinda thing I was hoping to hear, do you give the inquisitor pml1? Always. Before you give him any weapons or wargear, 'Prescience' is easily worth the psyker upgrade price. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/275123-xenos-inquisitor/#findComment-3366844 Share on other sites More sharing options...
VVolf Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 Id like to but i struggle for points, would help wiv gets hot rolls lol. Just have a go with proxy and see how you feel about it. My list has been tweeked quite a lot but has the same core of draigo and dreads. From a competitive standpoint its subpar yet i beat/table nearly everylist i fight (played about 8 games so far in my local gw). I found i needed long ranged punch and wanted to use a pie plate, so far i'm happy with it and if not... I use strikes to represent them anyway, no biggie. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/275123-xenos-inquisitor/#findComment-3366848 Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamv6 Posted May 11, 2013 Share Posted May 11, 2013 I add a Xenos Inquisitor with Power Armour, Psyker Lvl1 and Rad Grenades. He normally joins a unit of DCA's or Purifiers, and just upsets my opponents. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/275123-xenos-inquisitor/#findComment-3369105 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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