Skorpion Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 OK, I just had the wildest Idea in my head and I think I could pull it off! Basically I am starting a C:SM army and instead of sticking to one chapter - I want to make each squad from a different chapter and each character aswell unless they are the named ones of course. There are over a 1000 chapters and I could choose anything For example: one tactical squad: imperial fists one assault squad: doom eagles one chaplain from the dark angels etc etc They will all follow the C:SM rules and it will be easy to distinguish between the different units What do you guys think? Would it work - would you play against it. Please leave your opinion below PS: Only Post Heresy Loyal Chapters. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mini Miscellany Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 I see no problem with this. The background for the Red Corsairs is pretty similar (the original members were Astral Claws but they have since been joined by deserters from other loyalist chapters). Also, CSM warbands are usually a loose banding together of warriors from different legions under a single powerful leader rather than a tight-knit group of Space Marines from the same legion/chapter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dosjetka Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 Yep, that could work :) What you could do is make up a backstory for your army, where various Chapters (with or without other Imperial forces) have decided to launch a crusade against a certain foe and have banded squads together from the various Chapters to fight as one force.It's called a Crusade Company, IIRC. The only thing you "have" to do is find a campaign badge and have it on at least one model per squad and on most, if not all, vehicles. I hope that helps you somewhat! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skorpion Posted May 13, 2013 Author Share Posted May 13, 2013 Wow thanks for the quick replies guys! @Ludovic - that sounds great - any crusade you would suggest. My usual opponents are chaos space marines and tau @Mini - oh, i meant standard space marines but the idea is still interesting since my friend plays red corsairs :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
War Angel Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 I would have no problem with this, chaos players do it all the time too, so it's basically the same thing. I always imagin myself painting one marine from each chapter one day.... Then I realise that's 100 boxes of space marines.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mini Miscellany Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 Wow thanks for the quick replies guys! @Ludovic - that sounds great - any crusade you would suggest. My usual opponents are chaos space marines and tau @Mini - oh, i meant standard space marines but the idea is still interesting since my friend plays red corsairs Sorry, I thought your original post said CSM. With loyalists this still fits the background. It is extremely rare for a chapter to deploy in full strength, more often than not a war will several small forces of different space marines deployed by their chapters to assist local Imperial forces (such as the third war for Armageddon). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skorpion Posted May 13, 2013 Author Share Posted May 13, 2013 I would have no problem with this, chaos players do it all the time too, so it's basically the same thing. I always imagin myself painting one marine from each chapter one day.... Then I realise that's 100 boxes of space marines.... Ya thats why I decided to do squads instead :) Ok I want a general consensus on what I should start of with for each squad as I start to buy them The most repeated ideas will be selected and a explanation of why that chapter fits such a role in the army e.g I think you should choose xxx for yyy because they are zzz OK Here we go: Captain: Librarian: Chaplain: Assault Terminators: Tactical Squad: Scouts: Scout Snipers: Assault Squads: Land Raider: Rhino: Command Squad: Sternguard: Vanguard: Terminators: Vindicator: Crusader/ Redeemer: Razorback: Drop pod: devestators: whirlwind: attack bike: bikes: Each squad will be a different chapter and so it I have 3 tactical squads each one of them will be a different chaptet The board is open ladies and gentlemen! :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loketh Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 Casting my vote for Marines Errant as Vanguard Vets! Very cool fluff. They're all about duels, claymores, capes, and void warfare. Definitely worth checking out (also, Welsh names!). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
War Angel Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 I'm biased to say a squad of Eagles Eternal in a drop pod, or as a vanguard... But that's because i whore them out to anything with a pulse, so I say salamander devs, because its just so fitting of them. Space wolf gray hunters would make for excellent sternguard..... White scar bikers Dark angle terminators Blood angle death company vanguard marines.... You have to deep strike them tryin to get the Devine intervention... If you miss then any losses you suffer count as their curse taking effect. Ultramarine tacticals just makes sense For another tactical squad you can throw in some raven guard or imperial fist. I'd keep crimson fist out of it, just because they got a lot on their plate at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyaenidae Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 @Mini - oh, i meant standard space marines but the idea is still interesting since my friend plays red corsairs Bingo. Play the army as a combined force of Allied Astartes, all whom have been wronged by the Red Corsairs. A Vengeance Task Force, if you will. Bound by vows of revenge, these cousins have joined forces to burn the Corsairs out of their hiding spots, one filth ridden hole at a time. You could even talk to your buddy about matching the bases, to make them look like they are fighting on the same battlefield, add Corsair trophies to your men, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skorpion Posted May 14, 2013 Author Share Posted May 14, 2013 I just picked up a box of sanguinard guard to make blood angel vanguards or just assault marines. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostMalone Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 sounds like a good idea, I think to really tie it in each character in your force should have a campaign badge on there LH/S shoulder pad where squad type and number would usually register. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dosjetka Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 1000heathens: What a genius idea. I'll be using that *yoink* :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skorpion Posted May 14, 2013 Author Share Posted May 14, 2013 Right guys what do you think of having for the captain and command squad - i was thinking of having each marine from a different chapter so that they work in unison against the threat of chaos! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy1391 Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 Imperial fist hammernators lead by Lysander :) Raven guard scouts Mentor legion stern guard Salamander tactical squad with multi melta and melta gun Rainbow warriors tactical squad with lascannon and plasma gun Iron knights tactical squad with heavy bolter and flamer Storm wardens vanguard squad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razerz Posted May 15, 2013 Share Posted May 15, 2013 I would echo Mentors as Sternguard. It would fit in with their status as well equipped special ops forces that are assigned to other chapters. An Iron Hands Tactical squad or Techmarine would also fit in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonkin Arenis Posted May 15, 2013 Share Posted May 15, 2013 Wall of text below, so beware! I'd probably go with an Ultramarine Captain (because, obviously, UltraSmurfs are put in roles like this), a Black Templar Chaplain and a Dark Angel or Blood Raven Librarian, but I think the Black Templar wouldn't work well with the Librarian so I'd pick something else, such as the Genesis Chapter - their Chaplains are rather sacrosanct with regard to the Codex Astartes. Now the Command Squad, you could go with the different individuals from different chapters approach, I suppose. It would work from a fluff point of view as well, with the standard bearer carrying a banner that represents the vengeance crusade that this group are collectively on. That works. As for who's who, how about a mixture of 1st Founding Chapters or their 2nd Founding progeny? A Black Templar Emperor's/Company Champion, an Ultramarine/Successor Standard Bearer (I like the idea of one of the Sons of Orar, personally), Blood Angels/Successor Sanguiniary Priest/Apothecary, a Salamander Veteran with Melta Gun or Thunder Hammer, and an Iron Hands Junior Techmarine (regular veteran, but has a power weapon/fist as a servo arm proxy). The Tactical Squad could be anybody, so just pick a chapter that you like out of your metaphorical hat and go with it; the Assault Squad is much the same. Now for the Devastator Squad, I'd be leaning more towards Iron Hands, or Space Wolf Long Fangs. Scouts, again, can be anybody, but the Raven Guard could work well here, if you say they aren't actually Neophytes but are actually veterans, emphasised by modelling them differently. Assault Termies should definitely be Imperial Fists, with the Sergeant totting a Fist-Hammer just for the fun of it. Regular Termies could run as Dark Angels Deathwing, or an Ultramarines Successor like the Praetors of Orpheus, Novamarines (they have a few suits to spare!) or Marines Errant. Now, Sternguard are interesting, as you have so many options. You could have an entire squad of Novamarine Deathwatch Veterans, hard-nosed Crimson Fist survivors, Ultramarine Successor Tyrannic War Veterans, Mentors Elite Cadre, or even an actual Deathwatch Killteam.(Just imagining a Legio Killteam here, as well - that definitely would be fun ) The only Chapter I can envisage as Vanguard are the Blood Angels, but that's just me being biased. The Bikes, Attack Bikes and Land Speeders (if you have any) should either be White Scars or Dark Angels Ravenwing. An Aurora Chapter Land Raider (or Predator, hint, hint) would make complete sense, as does a Black Templar Land Raider Crusader/Salamanders Land Raider Redeemer. The Vindicator should go to an Imperial Fist successor, as they are definitely the "siege" chapter the Imperium still has, so take a look through the list and take your pick. The Iron Knights are well known for it, so take a look at them. As for the Whirlwind, I can't think of any specific artillery-minded chapters, but i would lean more towards an Imperial Fist or Iron Hands Successor. Personally, I would make the transports for each of these squads specific to the chapter you have chosen, rather than, say, an Iron Knights Tactical Squad in a White Scars Rhino, despite the cool fluffiness it brings. However, that is entirely up to you. Just my two penneth, so feel free to ingore all of this, but please consider this. Also, sorry about the wall - I got carried away Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aqui Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 @Mini - oh, i meant standard space marines but the idea is still interesting since my friend plays red corsairs Bingo. Play the army as a combined force of Allied Astartes, all whom have been wronged by the Red Corsairs. A Vengeance Task Force, if you will. Bound by vows of revenge, these cousins have joined forces to burn the Corsairs out of their hiding spots, one filth ridden hole at a time. You could even talk to your buddy about matching the bases, to make them look like they are fighting on the same battlefield, add Corsair trophies to your men, etc. Excellent idea! :tu: Imperial fist hammernators lead by Lysander Raven guard scouts Mentor legion stern guard Salamander tactical squad with multi melta and melta gun Rainbow warriors tactical squad with lascannon and plasma gun Iron knights tactical squad with heavy bolter and flamer Storm wardens vanguard squad ^_^ The Rainbow Warriors are Ultramarine successors, so two birds, one stone there :) plus they have absolutely no fluff/background save the name of a couple of Marines (Brother Vermilion and Brother-Captain Varagol). I've chosen to give them an Aztec feel, as have others (their name, it would seem comes from either the Greenpeace boat of the same name and/or the Hopi legend of "Warriors of the Rainbow", which is where the name of the Greenpeace boat comes from - basically it's a legend of a group of people who will come together to save the planet), but they are a blank canvas, so you can do whatever you like! ^_^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skorpion Posted May 16, 2013 Author Share Posted May 16, 2013 Wow Dragonkin, that is a big post. Thanks guys for all your suggestions. From what I collected there seems to be a big focus on the main legiOns for important stuff. What i am so far definite on Ba vanguard - got models Space wolves devs Imp fists tactical Ultramarine captain White scars and ravenwing bikes Blood ravens libby Black templar chaplain Iron hands land raider Doom eagles assault squad Crimson fist sternguard Salamanders terminators Ravenwing scout snipers Consecrators tactical squad Deathwatch command squad perhaps or successor chapters instead? Storm lords assault squad Hawk lords land speeder Interrogater chaplain Some other chapters i want to include: Knights of gryphonne Minotaurs Brazen claws Eagle warriors Legion of the damned and stormtalon - this needs citation What do you guys think? Like my choices so far - will add models as i get them and will be posting pics here soon once my exams finish. Thanks guys for the support! :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Nomus Sardauk Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 Wow Dragonkin, that is a big post. Thanks guys for all your suggestions. From what I collected there seems to be a big focus on the main legiOns for important stuff. What i am so far definite on Ba vanguard - got models Space wolves devs Imp fists tactical Ultramarine captain White scars and ravenwing bikes Blood ravens libby Black templar chaplain Iron hands land raider Doom eagles assault squad Crimson fist sternguard Salamanders terminators Ravenwing scout snipers Consecrators tactical squad Deathwatch command squad perhaps or successor chapters instead? Storm lords assault squad Hawk lords land speeder Interrogater chaplain Some other chapters i want to include: Knights of gryphonne Minotaurs Brazen claws Eagle warriors Legion of the damned and stormtalon - this needs citation What do you guys think? Like my choices so far - will add models as i get them and will be posting pics here soon once my exams finish. Thanks guys for the support! :) I'd suggest making your Stormtalons from the Hawk Lords, they're known for heavy use of Thunderhawks over Drop Pods and it makes sense they'd also have a lot of Stormtalons to escort them. For including the Minotaurs I'd say either Tartaros Terminators or an Assault Squad. Eagle Warriors would probably fit an Assault Squad too. The Knights of Gryphonne and Brazen Claws are difficult to decide on where you might include them due to the lack of info, however the Brazen Claws (being a Iron Hands successor) could provide interesting conversion opportunities with a truck-load of bionics and the Knights' homeworld was said to be in the same system as the Gryphonne Forge World so maybe you could include them both in a joint Sternguard unit (representing their above-average tech) and if you want break them into chapter specific combat squads. ^_^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skorpion Posted May 18, 2013 Author Share Posted May 18, 2013 Alright guys, finally got somewhere! I decided to go to build some vanguard veterans first since I so desperately wanted to use a sanguinary guard boxset. Now the question is should I paint the vanguard vets as blood angels themselves or as successors. If successors i am think of one of these guys: Angels sanguine, Flesh Tearers or Blood Drinkers. Tell me what you guys think I should do. I think I should probably make it a successor since i would rather instead use the actual ba model as the apothecary in the command squad. This is my idea have the first founding chapters as the HQs and the command squad and have the successors for all the other things. So for example the command squad will have one of each of the founding armies represented. However in some places I will have to make exceptions such as ravenwing for a bike squad - it has to be done! Also, my sarg in the squad has a storm shield - however, I don't own any so I decided to make my own! What do you guys think - ignore the glue it will be fixed soon. http://i44.tinypic.com/2vw64i8.jpg Thats it for now - will build the squad in the next few days. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyaenidae Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 Very nice. Add a few purity seals, and you'd be set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adeptus-Alaska Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 this project sounds cool, kinda like the Zeist Campaign in the vanilla dex! I'll be watching this! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirax Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 Fantastic army idea (not exactly new but hey this world is thousands of years old, who's really going to come up with a genuinely new idea?) Can't wait to see how the army looks when finished Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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