Techmarine Andreas Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 With the abundance of other great companies out there doing sci fi troops vehicles and miniatures I decided that my goal wold be to do an IG army without a single GW model in it. So here is my progress so far. For my Regular Infantry I'm going with the Dreamforge Games "Storm Troopers" First Bunch here. Don't worry about the composition of the squad as when i'm all done i will be rearranging weapon load-out etc to make them codex compliant. Weapon arms and heads of the Officers and Sergeants have been magnetized. Here is where I got em from http://www.wargamesfactory.com/webstore/dreamforge-games http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk297/M777A2/Imperial%20Guard%20Army/RegularGuardsMen.jpg Behind them you can see my first work in progress "Chimera" Counts as, from Antenocities Workshop. He makes some really really nice vehicles. http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk297/M777A2/Imperial%20Guard%20Army/Chimera.jpg I had some Pig Iron Productions Heavy Troopers sitting around which may become my "Stormtroopers", I slapped some paint and a quick wash on them just to see how they looked. I am undecided. http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk297/M777A2/Imperial%20Guard%20Army/StormTroopers.jpg There are more options for "Carapace Armored" troops Im considering for my Stormtroopers and Veterans. But we will get to that later. AS I said Antenocities Workshop makes some very very nice vehicles and I have 3 of his Bucephalus Grav Tank to be my Leman Russ Squadron. Here is my first one, again just with a base coat some details picked out and a wash to see how it looked. http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk297/M777A2/Imperial%20Guard%20Army/LemanRuss2.jpg and http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk297/M777A2/Imperial%20Guard%20Army/LemanRuss3.jpg Now to lead this army I went with Kabuki Models Rommel X minature to be my Company Commander/Straken counts as. I think this model fits in VERY well with the Dreamforge Games troopers. http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk297/M777A2/Imperial%20Guard%20Army/Front.jpg http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk297/M777A2/Imperial%20Guard%20Army/Rear.jpg and here he is along with a trooper and a sergeant http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk297/M777A2/Imperial%20Guard%20Army/WithGuardsmanandSergeant5.jpg So what im looking for right now is some feed back and some suggestions for alternate maodels to fulfill the various Guard Units available to me, I think its clear teh look im striving for with this army, so all feedback is welcome Thanks Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/275609-non-gw-guard-army/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obscura Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 Looking great and I'm enjoying your usage of miniatures. I was on the fence about the Rommel figure as I wasn't sure about the scale, but I think I'll definitely pick it up now. Looking forward to seeing you pick out the details and good luck on your army! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/275609-non-gw-guard-army/#findComment-3373634 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Techmarine Andreas Posted May 20, 2013 Author Share Posted May 20, 2013 Your concerns about the "Scale" of the Kabuki miniatures Rommel X are quite valid. It is a little on the small side and I don't think it would look as good with the GW range of Cadians. It is slightly more realistically proportioned. The same can be said of the other miniature in this range of Future Generals, here you can see my other 2 purchases, the future Napoleon makes a fantastic Officer of the Fleet I think!!! http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk297/M777A2/Imperial%20Guard%20Army/OfficeroftheFleet1.jpg http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk297/M777A2/Imperial%20Guard%20Army/OfficeroftheFleet2.jpg And like wise a quick head swap to a Dreamforge Officers head and Future Patton makes a great Master of Ordnance for my Command Element. http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk297/M777A2/Imperial%20Guard%20Army/MasterofOrdnance2.jpg http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk297/M777A2/Imperial%20Guard%20Army/MasterofOrdnance1.jpg Here the are all together. http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk297/M777A2/Imperial%20Guard%20Army/CommandTeam.jpg I must also say these are wonderful models to paint, the level of detail is great and with just a few base colors and a wash they are looking respectable!!!! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/275609-non-gw-guard-army/#findComment-3376142 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Techmarine Andreas Posted May 20, 2013 Author Share Posted May 20, 2013 Now even though I really really like the Dream Forge Storm Troopers i'm not totally in awe of the MG43 lookalike rifles they all carry. The next squad i make up will be equipped with some of Anvil Industries amazing weapons. Here is a selection. http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk297/M777A2/Imperial%20Guard%20Army/AnvilIndustriesWeapons.jpg Here we have my first Sniper Work In Progress: http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk297/M777A2/Imperial%20Guard%20Army/Sniper1.jpg http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk297/M777A2/Imperial%20Guard%20Army/Sniper2.jpg And here we have a Melta Gunner Work In Progress: http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk297/M777A2/Imperial%20Guard%20Army/Melta1.jpg http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk297/M777A2/Imperial%20Guard%20Army/Melta2.jpg Yeah.......Im not so sure about that Melta Gun, its kinda BIG!!!!!! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/275609-non-gw-guard-army/#findComment-3376162 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Techmarine Andreas Posted May 20, 2013 Author Share Posted May 20, 2013 Now in my first post I mentioned I was unsure about using the Pig Iron Productions heavy Troopers as my Storm troopers/Carapace Armored Troops. I think im actually going to use the Combat Armor from Puppets War for my Carapace Armored Troops. http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk297/M777A2/Imperial%20Guard%20Army/CarapaceArmour.jpg http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk297/M777A2/Imperial%20Guard%20Army/Carapace2.jpg Yeah, I know they are almost too "Power Armorish" I think but i do like them and thats what matters!!!! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/275609-non-gw-guard-army/#findComment-3376188 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Techmarine Andreas Posted May 27, 2013 Author Share Posted May 27, 2013 Small update on my progress. 2 More Grav Tanks put together, im gonna have to convert these tough to better represent the variant of leman russ I want to have in the squadron. http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk297/M777A2/Imperial%20Guard%20Army/2GravTanks.jpg Got some more Transports for my command and veteran squads, again from Antenocities Workshop. http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk297/M777A2/Imperial%20Guard%20Army/3xAPCFront.jpg I think I like this style better than the first ones I had got. http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk297/M777A2/Imperial%20Guard%20Army/APCCloseUp1.jpg With some figures for scale. http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk297/M777A2/Imperial%20Guard%20Army/3APCwithCommanders2.jpg All my Transports http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk297/M777A2/Imperial%20Guard%20Army/5xAPC.jpg All I need to find now is a suitable Hydra counts as to provide my Anti AIr and which also fits in with teh look of this army. Any thoughts or suggestions would be appreciated. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/275609-non-gw-guard-army/#findComment-3381057 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Lorien Posted May 27, 2013 Share Posted May 27, 2013 Upfront : this is jus my opinion! You need to 40k them one hell-of-a-lot more. The Grav tanks seem out of place, esspecially the turrets they have on them (booohiss...Tau) , same goes for the APCs: Stick some 40k weapons on them and they look ace, right now they just look out of place. Same goes for the infantry: Lose all the weapons , get lasguns or auto guns and use those, right now i think you'd have to explain too much to your opponent before a game as to whats what, which might take too much time off off a good game, i'd be a lot easier if someone can recognize whats he's fighting. As for the hydra: I'd get some autocannons from the heavy weapons squad or see if someone will part with the one from one of the bastion sets/ aegis lines and mount that on one of your apc's. The infantry themselves look ace by the way, esspecially the characters, i just dont like the weapons they are using at the moment. ++edit++: i was looking at the first picture again: why dont you give the armor a black and brown wash to get the panel lines to show? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/275609-non-gw-guard-army/#findComment-3381120 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Techmarine Andreas Posted May 27, 2013 Author Share Posted May 27, 2013 All valid points. I think i'm going to have to get on ebay or some bitz sites and scrounge up some Chimera Turrets. Yeah the Tanks do haave a "Filthy xenos" look to them!!! I will keep one as is i think to run as a Leman Russ Vanquisher, but will be converting the other 2 to be regular Battle Cannon armed. Im working on a squad of regular infantry right now using the Anvil Industry weapons, they look much more "40k" if i get my act together I should have them done today!!! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/275609-non-gw-guard-army/#findComment-3381361 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Octavulg Posted May 27, 2013 Share Posted May 27, 2013 Personally, I think the weapons are pretty obviously lasguns. So long as the special weapons are distinct and obvious, I wouldn't worry about it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/275609-non-gw-guard-army/#findComment-3381461 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Techmarine Andreas Posted May 27, 2013 Author Share Posted May 27, 2013 Second Infantry Squad Progress. Anvil Industry Rifles + Dreamforge Arms. http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk297/M777A2/Imperial%20Guard%20Army/Rifles.jpg Melta Gunner http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk297/M777A2/Imperial%20Guard%20Army/MeltaGunner1.jpg http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk297/M777A2/Imperial%20Guard%20Army/MeltaGunner2.jpg All Special Weapons Arms are being Magnetized. http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk297/M777A2/Imperial%20Guard%20Army/MeltaMagnetized.jpg Sniper http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk297/M777A2/Imperial%20Guard%20Army/Sniper1-1.jpg http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk297/M777A2/Imperial%20Guard%20Army/Sniper3.jpg Also Magnetized http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk297/M777A2/Imperial%20Guard%20Army/SniperMagnetized.jpg Regular Trooper http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk297/M777A2/Imperial%20Guard%20Army/Trooper1.jpg http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk297/M777A2/Imperial%20Guard%20Army/Trooper2.jpg http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk297/M777A2/Imperial%20Guard%20Army/Trooper3.jpg Oh yeah, I have also Magnetized all the heads for maximum flexibility :) http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk297/M777A2/Imperial%20Guard%20Army/HeadSwap.jpg http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk297/M777A2/Imperial%20Guard%20Army/TrooperCap.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/275609-non-gw-guard-army/#findComment-3381793 Share on other sites More sharing options...
greendestiny Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 Personally I think this is awesome. I have never really liked the IG boxes that are out right now. I am looking at alternatives myself. I purchased two boxes of basic IG Cadians to use as my leaders and for the special weapons. But my main troops will not be GW. Keep up this thread I love it! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/275609-non-gw-guard-army/#findComment-3381911 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Techmarine Andreas Posted May 29, 2013 Author Share Posted May 29, 2013 Another minor update, Anvil Industry Las Guns added to dream forge arms. this is enough for the next infantry squad, which im gonna get some paint on this evening. http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk297/M777A2/Imperial%20Guard%20Army/LasGunsandArms.jpg I also have done a little bit on my carapace armored troops. Im not "Loving" the Space Marine arms but im waiting on some alternaties to arrive so this was just to see how things looked. http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk297/M777A2/Imperial%20Guard%20Army/CarapaceArmor.jpg Company Standard Bearer http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk297/M777A2/Imperial%20Guard%20Army/CompanyStandard.jpg http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk297/M777A2/Imperial%20Guard%20Army/CompanyStandard2.jpg Magnetized of course, now it is great that Puppets war pre-drills the holes in the armor for the magnets, alas be warned they are drilled out to a 'Metric" size of 3 mm, living here in the US our small magnets are a "Standard" size of 1/8 of an inch which is 3.175 mm, so drilling out is still required, i should have bought 3 mm magnets from puppets war!!! But its not a big deal really. http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk297/M777A2/Imperial%20Guard%20Army/CompanyStandardMagnetized.jpg http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk297/M777A2/Imperial%20Guard%20Army/LasPistol3.jpg http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk297/M777A2/Imperial%20Guard%20Army/LasPistol.jpg http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk297/M777A2/Imperial%20Guard%20Army/LasPistol2.jpg Yeah I know, thats a pretty shoddy las pistol conversion. This is not going to be the final product, i'm on the lookout for better pistols weapons for these guys, again suggestions welcome. Melta Gunner http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk297/M777A2/Imperial%20Guard%20Army/MeltaGun2.jpg http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk297/M777A2/Imperial%20Guard%20Army/MeltaGun.jpg And no idea on the weapons for these 2 yet. I really need to get my ass over to teh Guard Army list section to see whats in vogue these days, but as im magnetizing EVERYTHING i have a lot of flexibility. http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk297/M777A2/Imperial%20Guard%20Army/StandingwithHelmet.jpg http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk297/M777A2/Imperial%20Guard%20Army/KneelingwithHelmet.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/275609-non-gw-guard-army/#findComment-3382311 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PANTHUR Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 what blue did you use for those models Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/275609-non-gw-guard-army/#findComment-3454947 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Techmarine Andreas Posted October 9, 2013 Author Share Posted October 9, 2013 what blue did you use for those models sorry for teh delay in reply. all these are base coated with Army Painters "Wolf Grey" spray, a few deatail picked out in metalics or black then a black wash. itsw a pretty quick and easy way of painint these guys. and I am a terrible painter so quick and easy all the way for me lol Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/275609-non-gw-guard-army/#findComment-3490679 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Techmarine Andreas Posted October 9, 2013 Author Share Posted October 9, 2013 Small update to show this project isnt dead!!!! Been a busy summer and now we are into the fall i should be able to get back at this project!! My Hydra, going to have 2 of these. http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk297/M777A2/Imperial%20Guard%20Army/DSC00460.jpg http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk297/M777A2/Imperial%20Guard%20Army/DSC00463.jpg Troopers with Lasguns/Autoguns WIP http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk297/M777A2/Imperial%20Guard%20Army/DSC00464.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/275609-non-gw-guard-army/#findComment-3490682 Share on other sites More sharing options...
librisrouge Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 Ok, gotta know where the Hydra turret came from. I want two. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/275609-non-gw-guard-army/#findComment-3491049 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Techmarine Andreas Posted October 10, 2013 Author Share Posted October 10, 2013 Ok, gotta know where the Hydra turret came from. I want two. Got the turrets here: http://ratgard.com/ He also does a great Basilisk/Griffon Conversion Kit Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/275609-non-gw-guard-army/#findComment-3491351 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicodemus Doloroso Posted October 12, 2013 Share Posted October 12, 2013 Ok, gotta know where the Hydra turret came from. I want two. Got the turrets here: http://ratgard.com/ He also does a great Basilisk/Griffon Conversion Kit Thanks for the info. I really like that turret and the overall conversion job you did, but ... oof, that ratgard guy isn't exactly giving away that conversion kit, is he? It's significantly more expensive than a Forgeworld Hydra. A complete Hydra kit (including the chimera chassis) from Forgeworld is £46.00 which is about $70, whereas this dude's kit is $48 and you've got to buy a $45 chimera to put it on (total $93). The Puppetswar Mk II turret (5€) with a 2-pack of "double automatic cannon" (also 5€) seems a decent alternative, though, if money is an issue. I'm probably just going to throw the quad cannon from the Aegis Defence line on top of a chimera, though, since I plan on using the Icarus Lasgun primarily with the Aegis. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/275609-non-gw-guard-army/#findComment-3492959 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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