Brother dean Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 I've been pondering this for a while. Even though we of the Inner Circle can see that the broken sword in the Deathwing Symbol stands as a metaphor for our broken and divided Legion, What is the public story for the lower ranks and the Imperium at large for our most revered Company to have a variant chapter badge? I'm betting it is either of two choices: 1: Nobody notices or questions... 2: It is a representation of the broken Lion Sword (which it is of course) and signifies our collective sorrow at the loss of our father. Now the problem with this one is: "Then why doesnt the entire chapter have it?"... Discuss/point out where I am wrong/missed a trick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pbenner Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 The first rule about the broken sword is, you don't talk about the broken sword. I assume that the front story of it being The Lion's sword keeps 99.99999% of all the people sated. The last .00001% are contained in Cell 42. Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cactus Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 I doubt anybody questions it. The Blood Angels' first company badge is a skull rather than the one or two blood drops used by the rest of their chapter. Why? No particular reason that I can see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leman Russ SW Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 I believe in the really old fluff the Master of the Deathwing was called Commander Broken Knife not sure if this is linked with the symbol but was arround the time the original metal box set came out for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cactus Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 Captain Gabriel, aka Broken Knife, featured in the Deathwing expansion for Space Hulk. I always assumed his name was just part of the native American styling of the characters, like Weasel Fierce, Cloud Runner, and Two-Heads Talking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother dean Posted May 22, 2013 Author Share Posted May 22, 2013 I do imagine that most of the imperium's "citizens" would just go "Holy ! A bigger Astartes! Run FASTER!" But the Inquisition and troopers in the DA may wonder... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artemid Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 It's a badge of honor for being a member of the vaunted First Company, the only ones in the Chapter worthy enough to wear the symbol of the broken Lion's Sword. It's not like "Till the Sword is Reforged!" isn't a Chapter-wide battle cry or anything... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isiah Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 The broken sword actually has no connection other than coincidence with the Lion Sword. Nor does it have anything to do with the schism within our chapter. The story underlying the motifs on the Deathwing banner was released by GW themselves with the release of the DW Space Hulk expansion box. The fallen angel with the broken sword represents Two Head Talking calling down the wrath of the Deathwing - the Emperor's steed - upon the genestealer-infested city. Thus the broken sword became the motif for our first company. Cheers I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cactus Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 Yeeees, but... the 4th edition 'it may be an allegory for Caliban' ret-con opens up other interpretations. Heck, what you just wrote Isiah could very well be the in-universe cover story that Brother Dean was asking for.If the question was 'why did GW give the Deathwing a broken sword in their logo?' then I believe you're absolutely right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isiah Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 Err, thank you I think :unsure: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother dean Posted May 22, 2013 Author Share Posted May 22, 2013 I'll buy that Cactus.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother-Sergeant Bohemond Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 the answer given to the rank and file and anyone who asks is 'Plains Incident' as for what it really stands for....circles within circles my friends! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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