6th edition....

[Preston10K]

Does any one have any idea when the GK's will be getting the 6th ed make over?

I can't imagin its soon as GW had just released the iPad codex but a rough idea as to when would be nice?

I've not played a a while and dusted off my old DH army and picked up the codex GK looking forward to geting back into the mix.

So any ideas as to when a 6th ed overhaul will be in the pipe line?

Thank you muchly

[dswanick]

Does any one have any idea when the GK's will be getting the 6th ed make over?

I can't imagin its soon as GW had just released the iPad codex but a rough idea as to when would be nice?

I've not played a a while and dusted off my old DH army and picked up the codex GK looking forward to geting back into the mix.

So any ideas as to when a 6th ed overhaul will be in the pipe line?

Thank you muchly

The current codex is "pre-6th", and theoretically 6th compliant. It's not likely to get another update until late 7th Ed or 8th (If C:CSM is an indication), if then (if C:BT is considered).

[Captain Idaho]

I don't know about that. GW have released 4 Codex books already this year with more due shortly. I think we might see a much swifter turn around this time around.

 

We might see GK within a year for all we know! Aftwr Orks, we only have SoB before we run back into 5th edition Codex books (Assuming BT join Space Marines). I definitely don't think we'll have to wait until 7th or 8th edition.

[Gentlemanloser]

I doubt we'll see a book any time soon.

 

The current release schedule is fast, but I feel it's more a case of catch-up (or ZOMG keep us afloat! :P), and not anything sustainable.  If this schedule continues, GW will run out of Codexes to update within an expansions lifecycle!

[berzerkermike84]

2025

[Preston10K]

I'm only asking because i came into 40K with the release of Tau in what was the 3rd edition (2000-2001 maybe) when Codex DH was released and stopped playing (due to university and traveling) a short time after 4th edition (I remember well as I had a 4th edition Codex SM) now that was only 7-8 years ago may be.

Seems like a quick turn around in Rule Books given that it's in its 6th edition now.

I like the Codex GK don't get me wrong, but coming back to the hobby and haveing print outs of GW's FAQ's coming out my ears is frustrateing me a little bit!

on a smiilar note, does the iPad codex GK have all of the amendment to it?

Thanks guys!

[thade]

So the official answer is No, nobody knows, and calling any guesses "conjecture" is doing them rather tremendous (and unmerited) service. <3

 

Enjoy the book we got, it's a rather good one. Also, our models look totally sweet and allow for some bangin' conversion opportunities, not to mention that our core fluff (the Inquisition books from 3rd/4th Ed., Thorian Sourcebook, A. D-B.'s treatement of our Knights) is some of the coolest in the franchise. A true measure of an army in 40k is not only how much you enjoy their ruleset; it's a function of that, and the models, and the story that really make up the hobby.

[Full_ork]

I doubt we'll see a book any time soon.

The current release schedule is fast, but I feel it's more a case of catch-up (or ZOMG keep us afloat! ), and not anything sustainable. If this schedule continues, GW will run out of Codexes to update within an expansions lifecycle!

True, but they could spend a month releasing special stuff like bloodbowl and a reworked apoc. Those should make it where they have enough time to rework them all before 7th comes out.

[Sigvard]

^{As far as I am aware all of the new digital editions update with each of the new releases if you keep them on a device that is connected to the interner. A friend of mine plays DA and Necrons and he tells me they update. So that would definitely resolve small forrest you would have to fell to keep up with the FAQs. Plus they actually look pretty cool, but don't tell my friend, I enjoy winding him up too much about him paying for a "PDF". Hope that Helps}

[Gentlemanloser]

Don't own an iPad.

 

I have two Samsung Galaxy Tabs though.

 

Shame I can't get the always updating pdf 'dex.

[Sigvard]

Now that I can sympathise with. Though there is something to be said for actually pickin up your codex and looking through it.

[Justicar Enethys]

Agreed. I actually do own an iPad but I won't use digital Codexes. Why? I dunno. I guess because I am old school and set in my ways. I turn up to games and have my rule book and Codex to hand. I have a large army case for my Grey Knights (Bless you KR ;) ) and putting a Codex into one of the pockets designed for it is no extra burden. I prefer to flick through an actual book (When that's needed. Most stuff is committed to memory now anyway. Need it for the occasional brain-fart :P ). As for FAQ's & Erratas - well. I guess it would be nice to just have an updated PDF Dex, but if I own the books anyway then I just think that it'd be a waste. My printer has done a fine job all these years anyway :D

I do sympathise with people who don't have iPads but have Galaxy Tabs etc and DO want digital Codexes though - it does seem a strange approach to only show Apple some love

[Sigvard]

It seems to be the way of the future Justicar, I fully predict Apple will one day hold dominion over all men and we shall no longer on the planet earth, it shall simply be called the Apple. The other thing I resent about the digital codices is that they are the same price as their physical counterparts. Now I understand that a digital edition is exactly the same in terms of what you get. But to me paying the same amount of money for some code and pictures in a data files seems a bit cheeky.....

[Gentlemanloser]

Seem like GW are releasing the digital dexes for Andriod and Kindle now.

 

Saw a link a while ago, can't sem to find it now. :(

[Reclusiarch Darius]

Guys, our army book IS a 6th edition book. We only needed a minor FAQ update to clarify things. Mastery levels, our own Flyer and monster kit built in, Force Org change HQ's, squad leaders taking warding staves, Bro Champ with rules specifically designed to murder characters...its all there. 

 

We don't need an update. We're easily one of the top-tier armies of 6th. I'd guess GW will only return to us when 7th edition rolls around, maybe not for a while after that. They still haven't touched BT, SoB (White Dwarf doesn't count), Orks, Tyranids...we're way down the queue. 

[Aethernitas]

Guys, our army book IS a 6th edition book. We only needed a minor FAQ update to clarify things. Mastery levels, our own Flyer and monster kit built in, Force Org change HQ's, squad leaders taking warding staves, Bro Champ with rules specifically designed to murder characters...its all there. 

 

We don't need an update. We're easily one of the top-tier armies of 6th. I'd guess GW will only return to us when 7th edition rolls around, maybe not for a while after that. They still haven't touched BT, SoB (White Dwarf doesn't count), Orks, Tyranids...we're way down the queue. 

 

You are of course entitled to your own opinion but sugggesting that our codex is a 6th edition codex is quite the nugget to gobble.

 

Don't be fooled by aspects that were added due to 6th already waiting in the wings. That doesn't make it a 6th edition codex. The fact that our codex is still quite strong isn't even a valid argument for not bringing a codex in line with the current ruleset.

 

You are right about Grey Knights/Inquisition beeing quite the way down the release pipeline but I'm positive the update will definitely come. I for one am glad couse I wanna know what supplements we get and I want to play with a codex without awkward leftovers from a bygone edition that sometimes even make your opponents feel like you are playing outside the rules course there is no reference in the corerulebook for some GK shenanigans whatsoever.

[Justicar Enethys]

Completely agree with Aethernitas. While our Codex may have design elements that took the then upcoming 6th into account - you can`t in all seriousness believe it actually IS a 6th Edition Codex. That is, unless you think Venerable Dreadnoughts really should pay so much more for an inherent ability which is almost completely redundant due to the advent of Hull Points in 6th - and that this was GW's intention. We won't be a priority, but I firmly believe we'll get our 6th Edition 'dex at some point :)

[Reclusiarch Darius]

Don't be fooled by aspects that were added due to 6th already waiting in the wings. That doesn't make it a 6th edition codex. The fact that our codex is still quite strong isn't even a valid argument for not bringing a codex in line with the current ruleset.

Maybe, but do you think GW are going to come back to us anytime soon? Orks still haven't gotten any love yet, Templars are being re-done, vanilla Marines are almost certainly next (Eldar got done faster than I thought), Sisters will get done at some point, BA are ahead of us in the queue.

You are right about Grey Knights/Inquisition beeing quite the way down the release pipeline but I'm positive the update will definitely come. I for one am glad couse I wanna know what supplements we get and I want to play with a codex without awkward leftovers from a bygone edition that sometimes even make your opponents feel like you are playing outside the rules course there is no reference in the corerulebook for some GK shenanigans whatsoever.

What awkward leftovers? Our FAQ pretty much changed or clarified what we needed. As I pointed out in detail, we have a lot of 6th edition design, rules and concepts built right in. Hell, we were the first codex to reference Psychic Mastery levels and implement it. There aren't any glaring deficiencies or rule conflicts I see. A few things here and there, but nothing compared to some other codicies.

Completely agree with Aethernitas. While our Codex may have design elements that took the then upcoming 6th into account - you can`t in all seriousness believe it actually IS a 6th Edition Codex. That is, unless you think Venerable Dreadnoughts really should pay so much more for an inherent ability which is almost completely redundant due to the advent of Hull Points in 6th - and that this was GW's intention. We won't be a priority, but I firmly believe we'll get our 6th Edition 'dex at some point

GW have never understood what they want with Dreadnoughts. On the one hand, they want to have them as flexible walkers proficient in both melee and ranged. Yet, they make them overpriced, weak, terrible in melee and passable at ranged (our PsyDread was an oversight, in reality Rifledreads are pretty mediocre). They throw us a bone with Venerables, but then jack up the price so that Terminators outdo them every time. GW did Hull Points as a reaction to all the cheap armour they flooded the meta with (thanks largely to IG and BA builds). It had consequences beyond what they expected, namely the final nail in the coffin of Dreadnoughts. It's also really nerfed Rhinos in Marine lists.

As a quick aside, I think our PsyDread is still pretty viable, although it did take a hit. Its Aegis bonus is now very relevant, as hexes and nukes will be coming our way more and more, so -4 to enemy casting is pretty handy on top of the 5+ Deny we get. S8 spam got better, as glances can now kill. In the context of our army, we don't have cheap S8 platforms anywhere else (Marines have Landspeeders, IG have heavy weapons on everythings, Tau have got options galore, etc).

I just don't see it guys. There are at least three other codicies which have priority, and regular Marines haven't been touched yet. We were the second-last 5th edition book, Necrons only barely avoided being 6th edition (and there is no way you can argue they aren't 6th edition ready, half their rules made no sense until 6th dropped).

[thade]

Conventional wisdom on this stuff definitely suggests we won't see any further GK codex treatment for a long while; however that may change with the digital codex movement and this new angle of sub-faction codex add-ons we're seeing. So, maybe conventional wisdom will no longer apply, but - if it does - reflect upon just how long Dark Eldar and Necrons needed to wait. :)

 

If wait we must, wait we will. Our codex isn't too shabby, all things considered.

[Dread]

You are correct  Thade, for being one of the older books, it can still dish out the pain.