Kajae Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 Just a quick question about how people are using them. Do you guys field these with their rules in the IA book or do you just use them for a different-looking standard dreadnought? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/275954-contemptor-dreadnoughts/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
exetus Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 Once they started allowing Forgeworld models in major tournaments, most of the places I have played use those rules in the various Imperial Armor books. So to answer your question, Contemptors are used by their statline in IA for us. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/275954-contemptor-dreadnoughts/#findComment-3379185 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cactus Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 I use my contemptor-mortis with the Imperial Armour rules. Two Kheres assault cannon and a cyclone missile launcher. It packs a phenomenal amount of firepower at BS5 and attracts a small amount of griping due how resilient it is. I occassionally consider using the standard contemptor but until I obtain some of the more interesting weapon arms I just don't see the value of a power fist/heavy flamer in place of the second Kheres. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/275954-contemptor-dreadnoughts/#findComment-3379194 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pbenner Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 Locally the tourneys mostly allow FW - we use them for what they are. The Mortis Dread is the only "pure" Deathwing option available for AA, and A CC kitted Contemptor in a Lucius Pattern Drop-Pod is a nasty sight though. Paul Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/275954-contemptor-dreadnoughts/#findComment-3379205 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rindaris Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 The two places I play at, one alot more than the other, have different feelings about this. The one I tend to play at less, is more welcoming to them. However the other place is pretty close minded about FW stuff. I'd like to play at the other place more, but due to family situations I tend to play at the latter. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/275954-contemptor-dreadnoughts/#findComment-3379207 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger9gamer Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 I would want to know if the contemptor can go one-on-one with the Wraithknight. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/275954-contemptor-dreadnoughts/#findComment-3379261 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rindaris Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 I've read that Wraithknights are going to have T6 and a 3+ invul save.. honestly, I doubt the Contemptor would stand much chance in close combat. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/275954-contemptor-dreadnoughts/#findComment-3379263 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pbenner Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 Chances are that the Wraithknight will Strike First, with Str 8+, so it has a good chance to Hull Point or Penetrate the Contemptor to death, but if it's only Str 6, then I'll bet that with Dual CCW the Contemptor may be able to rip it apart. We'll see what happens with it's stat-line. best, Paul Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/275954-contemptor-dreadnoughts/#findComment-3379278 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy1391 Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 Oh pssshhh you know how a contemptor goes toe to toe with a wraith knight? 24 inches with dual kheres assault cannons and a cyclone that's how! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/275954-contemptor-dreadnoughts/#findComment-3379280 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rindaris Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 Oh pssshhh you know how a contemptor goes toe to toe with a wraith knight? 24 inches with dual kheres assault cannons and a cyclone that's how! Thats how I'd do it. Maybe with a Techmarine behind him with a PFG just to spite the Wraith Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/275954-contemptor-dreadnoughts/#findComment-3379283 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigGumbo Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 I have two: one with Kheres AC and a plasma blaster CCW arm; the other a Mortis with TL lascannons and a Cyclone. Both perform well when deployed, but they're costly beasts. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/275954-contemptor-dreadnoughts/#findComment-3379401 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interrogator Stobz Posted May 25, 2013 Share Posted May 25, 2013 Three typhoons with MM, 9 shots, 6 hits, 5 wounds, AP2and 3 means no save = almost dead Wraithknight, it is cool but as the rumours stand easily beatable. Of course the Typhoons die next Eldar turn so the sacrifice needs to be worth it. OT: IA rulz !!! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/275954-contemptor-dreadnoughts/#findComment-3379856 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaplain Lucifer Posted May 25, 2013 Share Posted May 25, 2013 Please focus on the OP question... when the time comes we'll have threads about how we deal with codex eldar. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/275954-contemptor-dreadnoughts/#findComment-3379860 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Avoghai Posted May 25, 2013 Share Posted May 25, 2013 Back on OP, I already own 5 or 6 dreadnoughts hence I don't need the contemptor for "count as" :D I use it with the aeronautica rule for AA superiority as it's not one of our codex's strength to say the least... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/275954-contemptor-dreadnoughts/#findComment-3379870 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Envoy Posted May 25, 2013 Share Posted May 25, 2013 I use them in two ways. Using them as is with IA rules. Combining the bitz from Contemptor, Normal and Dreadknight to make awesome conversions. I have many many plans... mwhahahaaa *coughs* ahem. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/275954-contemptor-dreadnoughts/#findComment-3379893 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disruptor_fe404 Posted May 27, 2013 Share Posted May 27, 2013 Which Imperial Armour has the basic Contemptor's rules? I know the Mortis is in IA:Aeronautica... but the normal one? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/275954-contemptor-dreadnoughts/#findComment-3381012 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy1391 Posted May 27, 2013 Share Posted May 27, 2013 Apocalypse 2 from forgeworld Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/275954-contemptor-dreadnoughts/#findComment-3381015 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disruptor_fe404 Posted May 27, 2013 Share Posted May 27, 2013 Page? Because I'm not seeing it in mine. Unless there's a new version of Apocalypse II (Apocalypse II 2?)... Also, none of those are 40k approved. Though I'm sure a bunch of them are 40k approved elsewhere... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/275954-contemptor-dreadnoughts/#findComment-3381320 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigGumbo Posted May 27, 2013 Share Posted May 27, 2013 I think it's also in IA:Apocalypse second edition Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/275954-contemptor-dreadnoughts/#findComment-3381325 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Avoghai Posted May 27, 2013 Share Posted May 27, 2013 I've just tested it against IG (Morris kheres/CML) and I was very impressed by the number of shots this beast can absorb. I wasn't very lucky with my pen hits as I only obtained one 6 in two phases of shooting. But every shooting phase made my opponent sweat because 12 rending shoots at BS 5 is something you can't negate. It maintained his attention focused on this wing while my bikes and my termis took this other side. My opponent feared it as much as this combined force! He finally died on an ordnance shoot but gave me enough time to finally win the game. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/275954-contemptor-dreadnoughts/#findComment-3381357 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kajae Posted May 27, 2013 Author Share Posted May 27, 2013 Page? Because I'm not seeing it in mine. Unless there's a new version of Apocalypse II (Apocalypse II 2?)... Also, none of those are 40k approved. Though I'm sure a bunch of them are 40k approved elsewhere... Not apocalypse II, apocalypse second edition. Yeah, it's confusing. It doesn't appear to be in print anymore....I had to get the rules via...other...means. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/275954-contemptor-dreadnoughts/#findComment-3381599 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pbenner Posted May 27, 2013 Share Posted May 27, 2013 Both the Standard Contemptor and the Mortis Contemptor are in IA: Apocalypse Second Edition - Product Code 600040187019 24-25 for the "standard" contemptor (The one the DAs get) BA and SW have their own rules for theirs 28 for the Mortis IA: Aeronautica (Product Code 60040187021) has the same model on Page 38 - but it doesn't contain a Plasma Cannon option. Best, Paul Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/275954-contemptor-dreadnoughts/#findComment-3381655 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onisuzume Posted May 27, 2013 Share Posted May 27, 2013 Both the Standard Contemptor and the Mortis Contemptor are in IA: Apocalypse Second Edition - Product Code 600040187019 24-25 for the "standard" contemptor (The one the DAs get) BA and SW have their own rules for theirs 28 for the Mortis IA: Aeronautica (Product Code 60040187021) has the same model on Page 38 - but it doesn't contain a Plasma Cannon option. Best, Paul Think I can explain why the plasma cannon option is missing there; blasts can't hit flyers. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/275954-contemptor-dreadnoughts/#findComment-3381743 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pbenner Posted May 27, 2013 Share Posted May 27, 2013 I understand that Oni, but it still should be listed, as it's a legal model option. Luckily I own both books, I just wanted to be sure that the facts were straight in the thread. Paul Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/275954-contemptor-dreadnoughts/#findComment-3381762 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Avoghai Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 IIRCnot all the weapons options are available to the Original Mortis dreadnought. Plasma cannons and assault cannons are also not available. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/275954-contemptor-dreadnoughts/#findComment-3382547 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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