TheFlayedMan Posted May 27, 2013 Share Posted May 27, 2013 Can anyone tell me where / when we found out our Lord Commander's first name???? Seriously never seen it anywhere before then all the sudden someone added this really weird name to Dante's 40k wikia page Can anyone back this up with a cannon reference please???? Whats next "Frank" Corbulo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disruptor_fe404 Posted May 27, 2013 Share Posted May 27, 2013 Depends on how you interpret this Lexicanum Talk thread. The way I read it, they're saying someone is trolling the 'reliability' of the 40k Wikia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exetus Posted May 27, 2013 Share Posted May 27, 2013 The most likely place we'd find something like that would be the novels, but he's never mentioned as Cervan Dante in those that I can recall. Only when he's in chamber with Mephiston would the name likely come up and it's not mentioned. My guess is that, like said before, someone just edited the wiki. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFlayedMan Posted May 27, 2013 Author Share Posted May 27, 2013 Thanks Disruptor, much appreciated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Memento Of Prospero Posted May 27, 2013 Share Posted May 27, 2013 I think the primarch is Tony Sanguinius. How you doin' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted May 27, 2013 Share Posted May 27, 2013 Its Jethro Sanguinius. Pronounced San-gwen-is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Memento Of Prospero Posted May 27, 2013 Share Posted May 27, 2013 What about Paulie the Grim? He's always in a bad mood, you 'now what I mean? Damn. The Blood Angels italian mob themed army would be AWESOME! Tommy guns for all! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrandMagnus Posted May 27, 2013 Share Posted May 27, 2013 Jethro sanguinius? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAHERSH Posted May 27, 2013 Share Posted May 27, 2013 How bout our good ol' Librarian, Timothy Mephiston Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ushtarador Posted May 27, 2013 Share Posted May 27, 2013 Chad, Chad Valencio! That one still cracks me up :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelloid Posted May 27, 2013 Share Posted May 27, 2013 Do space marines even have last names generally? I'm pretty sure Dante is his first (and only) name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Memento Of Prospero Posted May 27, 2013 Share Posted May 27, 2013 All non-primarch space marines have a last name. Marneus Calgar, Logan Grimnar, Pedro Kantor, Vulkan'Estan, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelloid Posted May 27, 2013 Share Posted May 27, 2013 All non-primarch space marines have a last name. Marneus Calgar, Logan Grimnar, Pedro Kantor, Vulkan'Estan, etc. Except Blood Angels, who only ever have first names? -Mephiston -Tycho (Edit: wait, this is actually his last name: Erasmus Tycho... weird... Okay, so there is one BA character with a last name) -Dante -Corbulo -Lemartes? -Astorath You cited 4 chapter masters. Do we have evidence of any marine other than a chapter master having a last name? (Which begs the question why Dante doesn't seem to have one) Edit: amusingly, chapters with Blood Angels gene seed also seem to have a lack of last names: Castellan Zargo - Angels Encarmine (Castellan is a title) Sentikan - Angels Sanguine Orloc - Blood Drinkers Armis - Blood Legion Lord Daggan - Blood Swords (Lord is a title) Flesh Tearers seem to be the only exception I can find. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Memento Of Prospero Posted May 27, 2013 Share Posted May 27, 2013 All non-primarch space marines have a last name. Marneus Calgar, Logan Grimnar, Pedro Kantor, Vulkan'Estan, etc. Except Blood Angels, who only ever have first names? -Mephiston -Tycho -Dante -Corbulo -Lemartes? -Astorath You cited 4 chapter masters. Do we have evidence of any marine other than a chapter master having a last name? (Which begs the question why Dante doesn't seem to have one) All Space wolves characters I can think of have two names. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disruptor_fe404 Posted May 27, 2013 Share Posted May 27, 2013 You cited 4 chapter masters. Do we have evidence of any marine other than a chapter master having a last name? (Which begs the question why Dante doesn't seem to have one) Edit: amusingly, chapters with Blood Angels gene seed also seem to have a lack of last names Antaro Chronus. Varro Tigurius. Cato Sicarius. Ortan Cassius. Torias Telion. Uriel Ventris (do novels count?) Kor'sarro Khan (though you could make the case for 'Khan' being an honorific). Kayvaan Shrike. Darnath Lysander. As you mentioned, Gabriel Seth and Erasmus Tycho are the exceptions for the Sanguinian line. Kaldor Draigo, Garran Crowe, Anval Thawn, if you want to include Grey Knights. If you go by the Codex, the Dark Angels only have one name each (and it's a name assigned by the Chapter). I can't remember how the Blood Angels get their names, but I think they get them assigned by the Chapter, so maybe a lot of them don't have last names. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonaides Posted May 27, 2013 Share Posted May 27, 2013 Some marines (interestingly including Dark Angels - ref 'Deathwing') are given a new 'Imperial' name when they become a marine. If Tycho has 2 names it follows that all/most (some may only have ever had 1 name before becoming a marine) marines will have 2 names (Tycho must have had 2 names while he was a mere grunt after all). Its not that they dont have last names - its that we only hear/see the last names (not the first names - you wouldnt formally address a Chapter Master by his first name, would you?). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelloid Posted May 27, 2013 Share Posted May 27, 2013 Some marines (interestingly including Dark Angels - ref 'Deathwing') are given a new 'Imperial' name when they become a marine. If Tycho has 2 names it follows that all/most (some may only have ever had 1 name before becoming a marine) marines will have 2 names (Tycho must have had 2 names while he was a mere grunt after all). Its not that they dont have last names - its that we only hear/see the last names (not the first names - you wouldnt formally address a Chapter Master by his first name, would you?). That's like saying 'you wouldn't address the queen of england by her first name, would you?' Yes you would. You'd only address her by her first name. Edit: You'd also use her title and possibly her style, but you'd never even mention her last name. I doubt most people even know what it is. And Dante is clearly a first name, as are most of the other names we have for BA characters. (Only Lemartes isn't clear, but "Lemartes, Guardian of the Lost" makes it sound like a first name, since you typically use a style with a given name). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exetus Posted May 27, 2013 Share Posted May 27, 2013 Some marines (interestingly including Dark Angels - ref 'Deathwing') are given a new 'Imperial' name when they become a marine. If Tycho has 2 names it follows that all/most (some may only have ever had 1 name before becoming a marine) marines will have 2 names (Tycho must have had 2 names while he was a mere grunt after all). Its not that they dont have last names - its that we only hear/see the last names (not the first names - you wouldnt formally address a Chapter Master by his first name, would you?). That's like saying 'you wouldn't address the queen of england by her first name, would you?' Yes you would. You'd only address her by her first name. Edit: You'd also use her title and possibly her style, but you'd never even mention her last name. I doubt most people even know what it is. And Dante is clearly a first name, as are most of the other names we have for BA characters. (Only Lemartes isn't clear, but "Lemartes, Guardian of the Lost" makes it sound like a first name, since you typically use a style with a given name). By Western naming conventions, is it Windsor, since that's the house she's from? I know that all of the royal line have multiple given names... And yes, I'm pretty sure that what we see with Blood Angels is their first name, but I also wonder if it's just a romanticized name given them by the chapter. Even Mephiston's name isn't his real name, since he was previously Calistarius. Nassar Amit and Morleo Moriar are also two other sons of Sanguinius to have first and last names. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black_Sky Posted May 27, 2013 Share Posted May 27, 2013 Cervan Dante could have been from the fakedex we saw just up to the release of our current codex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellios Posted June 7, 2013 Share Posted June 7, 2013 Wasn't Mephiston called Calistarius (SP?) before he turned into a daemon prince? So what happened? Did he get renamed? Did he rename himself? or did he suddenly go to a first name basis with the entire chapter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelloid Posted June 8, 2013 Share Posted June 8, 2013 Wasn't Mephiston called Calistarius (SP?) before he turned into a daemon prince? So what happened? Did he get renamed? Did he rename himself? or did he suddenly go to a first name basis with the entire chapter? Definitely renamed. lol@ turned into a demon prince. (It's so true..) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baba Lem Posted June 8, 2013 Share Posted June 8, 2013 I don't think the name Cervan Dante is so bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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