skeletoro Posted May 31, 2013 Share Posted May 31, 2013 http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/New_Stuff/LEGION_PRAETORS.html Can you imagine using these models as wolf lords/wolf guard battle leaders/any other SW HQs? I love them, but it's a tad difficult to get past the whole "has a sword" thing. I'd be loathe to swap either sword out, because they look amazing. But power/frost swords aren't a great option for our HQ choices. A Runic sword, on the other hand, might work fine. But they don't look all that Rune Priesty.. yet :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/276278-legion-praetors-can-you-imagine-wolfing-these-up/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimtooth Posted May 31, 2013 Share Posted May 31, 2013 Would be great, but I am just gonna have to be patient and wait for the Sixth Legion stuff to finally hit. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/276278-legion-praetors-can-you-imagine-wolfing-these-up/#findComment-3384615 Share on other sites More sharing options...
skeletoro Posted May 31, 2013 Author Share Posted May 31, 2013 Hehe, yeah, fair enough. They're such amazing models but they're so intricate I'm thinking they wouldn't suit anything less than a very high ranking old wolf lord, or something. Too detailed for a wolf guard, do you think?? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/276278-legion-praetors-can-you-imagine-wolfing-these-up/#findComment-3384623 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimtooth Posted May 31, 2013 Share Posted May 31, 2013 If you used as a Wolf Guard, there is nothing on the market to create a Wolf Lord that would look better. If you converted him into a Wolf Lord, the normal GW plastic kits would look like crap with him as the centerpiece. Basically, you buy him and convert to Wolves, you buy an entire HH model line to convert for an accompanying army. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/276278-legion-praetors-can-you-imagine-wolfing-these-up/#findComment-3384625 Share on other sites More sharing options...
skeletoro Posted May 31, 2013 Author Share Posted May 31, 2013 I pretty much agree. I think you could buy him as a wolf lord and get by with plastics for lower-ranking models. But using him as anything but your warlord would lead to the exact issue you describe, I think. In short, FW can be used alongside plastic as long as the FW models are for the more elite units :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/276278-legion-praetors-can-you-imagine-wolfing-these-up/#findComment-3384628 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimtooth Posted May 31, 2013 Share Posted May 31, 2013 I don't think I would have able to do that. I get this guy as my Wolf Lord, then I would be buying the Cataphractii for Wolf Guard, and the MKIV legion Recon guys for Wolf Scouts. It would be an expensive avalanche of dollars that would have me pissed off when the actual Wolves HH models are released. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/276278-legion-praetors-can-you-imagine-wolfing-these-up/#findComment-3384640 Share on other sites More sharing options...
skeletoro Posted May 31, 2013 Author Share Posted May 31, 2013 I'm currently in the middle of one of those avalanches, to be honest, hehe. I already have a unit of cataphractii just waiting for a wolf lord to lead them... That said, I'm in New Zealand. A HH 5 man is about NZ$46-47, while a wolf pack is NZ$73 (although you can get it a bit cheaper if you go through an online trader). It's not such a hard choice to go with FW down here ;) From the looks of GW's pricing strategy going forward, this may be true for everyone, soon enough. Still, I think the wolf pack boxed set mixes in OK with the legion squads. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/276278-legion-praetors-can-you-imagine-wolfing-these-up/#findComment-3384685 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostwolfalpha Posted May 31, 2013 Share Posted May 31, 2013 Those models are sexy, can't wait till the Rout gets some fw action for wolf lords. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/276278-legion-praetors-can-you-imagine-wolfing-these-up/#findComment-3384724 Share on other sites More sharing options...
skeletoro Posted June 1, 2013 Author Share Posted June 1, 2013 I read a wee while back that there are rumours that we'll see a new codex first half 2014. Sounds too good to be true, to be honest. But on the off-chance that it is, we'll see a new wave of GW SW minis a little while before (maybe 6 months before, assuming HH Book 4 is roughly the end of next year?) we see the Prospero book/models. That would make 2014 a great year. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/276278-legion-praetors-can-you-imagine-wolfing-these-up/#findComment-3384779 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Ragnarok Posted June 1, 2013 Share Posted June 1, 2013 http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/New_Stuff/LEGION_PRAETORS.html Can you imagine using these models as wolf lords/wolf guard battle leaders/any other SW HQs? I love them, but it's a tad difficult to get past the whole "has a sword" thing. I'd be loathe to swap either sword out, because they look amazing. But power/frost swords aren't a great option for our HQ choices. A Runic sword, on the other hand, might work fine. But they don't look all that Rune Priesty.. yet There's nothing wrong with space wolves using swords. Especially for the higher ranks. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/276278-legion-praetors-can-you-imagine-wolfing-these-up/#findComment-3385073 Share on other sites More sharing options...
skeletoro Posted June 2, 2013 Author Share Posted June 2, 2013 Oh, no, fluff-wise, it's fine. But a single AP3 weapon isn't ideal, IMO. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/276278-legion-praetors-can-you-imagine-wolfing-these-up/#findComment-3385262 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 I dunno, the AP3 options let us keep his good initiative score, leave the AP 2 stuff to his Wolf Guard or random GH number fyra. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/276278-legion-praetors-can-you-imagine-wolfing-these-up/#findComment-3385477 Share on other sites More sharing options...
skeletoro Posted June 3, 2013 Author Share Posted June 3, 2013 If you can guarantee you'll never need the AP2, sure. Saga of the bear is situational, but that situation is a big deal. So it's worth paying for. Same with ap2 on a lord. Fist + shield is good against just about everything. A power sword is good at slaying tactical marines. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/276278-legion-praetors-can-you-imagine-wolfing-these-up/#findComment-3386698 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted June 3, 2013 Share Posted June 3, 2013 A powersword- particularly a Frost Blade- is good at slaying 90% of the game. While not having my Wolf Lord face down the 2+ save enemies all day long might not be as cinematic, having him go at initiative saves alot of lives- plasma toting lives that are good at taking on those 2+ saves, and have a poweraxe in the back just in case.*shrugs* Im not a huge fan of hero-hammer, I find its a good way to lose. So I kit my Lord for munching troops en mass and dont take him often because hes expensive anyways. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/276278-legion-praetors-can-you-imagine-wolfing-these-up/#findComment-3386725 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Ragnarok Posted June 3, 2013 Share Posted June 3, 2013 A powersword- particularly a Frost Blade- is good at slaying 90% of the game. While not having my Wolf Lord face down the 2+ save enemies all day long might not be as cinematic, having him go at initiative saves alot of lives- plasma toting lives that are good at taking on those 2+ saves, and have a poweraxe in the back just in case. *shrugs* Im not a huge fan of hero-hammer, I find its a good way to lose. So I kit my Lord for munching troops en mass and dont take him often because hes expensive anyways. Is it not a good idea to give him both options with BoR and Bear? My philosophy is that if it is a higher point game I can fit the points. But I'm currently a noob play wise so this may be bad philosophy. ------------ Back On Topic... I would definitely count that as a frost blade rules wise. Fluff wise it is an old relic, a trophy taken back from a traitor or gifted by Chapter Master as part of some of event where they were comrades in arms. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/276278-legion-praetors-can-you-imagine-wolfing-these-up/#findComment-3386728 Share on other sites More sharing options...
skeletoro Posted June 4, 2013 Author Share Posted June 4, 2013 I haven't fielded that one before, but it would definitely be my next favourite pick. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/276278-legion-praetors-can-you-imagine-wolfing-these-up/#findComment-3386779 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted June 4, 2013 Share Posted June 4, 2013 Yeah- belt of Russ, Wolf Claw and Powerfist is a greatsetup, along with Mark of the Bear. Expensive as all get out, but there isnt anything he doesnt do well... in the assault phase. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/276278-legion-praetors-can-you-imagine-wolfing-these-up/#findComment-3386901 Share on other sites More sharing options...
skeletoro Posted June 4, 2013 Author Share Posted June 4, 2013 Yeah, it's definitely very good. It's worth noting though. There's a world of difference between a 3++ and a 4++ invulnerable save. Also, I5 won't help against the various eldar HQs who are AP2 @ <5 init. TH/SS will leave you more likely to survive to strike (though WC+PF is a bit less vulnerable to being disarmed, I guess!) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/276278-legion-praetors-can-you-imagine-wolfing-these-up/#findComment-3387419 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 It is, it should also be worth noting that all those eldar HQs that can get AP 2 weapons are special characters. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/276278-legion-praetors-can-you-imagine-wolfing-these-up/#findComment-3387784 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Ragnarok Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 It is, it should also be worth noting that all those eldar HQs that can get AP 2 weapons are special characters. Meaning they come at a price? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/276278-legion-praetors-can-you-imagine-wolfing-these-up/#findComment-3388385 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 It is, it should also be worth noting that all those eldar HQs that can get AP 2 weapons are special characters. Meaning they come at a price? Yeah, theyre all on phoenix lords, who run a minimum of 195pts, and usually over 200. The Autarch doesnt have a single AP 2 CC option, the only way he can ignore armor is with a fusiongun. Theres also the avatar- who is also 195pts. The plethora of available AP2 CCWs is found on the squad level exarchs- and every last one of them strikes at initiative. They are: Diresword- also inflicts instant death but will have a harder time wounding. *Dire Avenger Exarch* Scorpions Claw- powerfist at initiative. *Striking Scorpion Exarch* Executioner- like a relicblade. *Howling Banshee Exarch* Starlance- like a powerfist at initiative the first round of combat, only better vs vehicles. *Shining Spear Exarch* .... and thats it. All the other AP 2 CCWs are either monstrous creatures, or the axe wielding wraithguard- who have unwieldy weapons, though a total strength of 7 is nothing to sneeze at truth be told. So yes, the eldar have some very, very effective AP2 weapons... but none on their generic HQs, not even the option for one. For reasons I cant explain with any logic, Phoenix Lords havent been a popular HQ choice.... ever. I lovem to death personally, but the Eldar population at large things theyre to expensive to be anything but average. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/276278-legion-praetors-can-you-imagine-wolfing-these-up/#findComment-3388392 Share on other sites More sharing options...
skeletoro Posted June 6, 2013 Author Share Posted June 6, 2013 Yeah that's kinda... inconsistent. AP2 @ init is crazy good. To give it to ANYBODY is a huge perk (although I understand that most of these PLs kinda HAVE to strike first, as they have little or nothing in terms of invulnerable saves - just eternal warrior). But it's kinda strange for them to have given them to the uber high end, and to the low end (character wise) but not the generic HQs. Inconsistent is a kind way to put it :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/276278-legion-praetors-can-you-imagine-wolfing-these-up/#findComment-3388577 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Brother 92 Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 I think in that respect it levels it out to a rough even, in gaming sense it means that people don't have to spend tons of points of a shiny PL (although Asurmen and Fuegan are always great imo.) to gain some anti-terminator power, as CWE have literally no 2+ Avs barring I believe (though haven't seen new Codex) Wraith-type stuff and Special Characters/HQs so nothing really able to go toe-to-toe with most other armies heavy hitters (be they Cron destroyers, Termies or Meganobz) - that said from a business POV (always something modern-GW loves) it means people who do want to field heavy hitters like the new Knight and PLs have to pay the premium, and I'm sure they haven't under-delivered like they did with the Tau... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/276278-legion-praetors-can-you-imagine-wolfing-these-up/#findComment-3388616 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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