facmanpob Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 I would lean toward the Scars, given the choices in the OP, although both ideas are excellent. The only thing that would make me consider the Raven Guard option above the Scar option is that the RG will be getting a lot of love from the next FW HH book, Massacre, whereas we'll be waiting for ever until the Scars book comes out. Having said that, I do always feel a little sad for the Terrans, as they do often seem to get sidelined once the Primarch is found....so perhaps the Raven Guard choice is better..... Ho hum, I'm not being very helpful....so I'll say go with mainly Scars, but with a Raven Guard element of Terrans who survived the Drop Site... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/276921-the-raven-or-the-fox-picking-a-legion/page/2/#findComment-3395619 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimdarkness Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 Grimdarkness, on 16 Jun 2013 - 17:04, said: The raven guard are often described as having native american feature's or at least corax was iirc so why not do the scar's idea with the raven gaurd just an idea. If not I vote scar's. Where the hell they picked up that aspect is beyond me though, except that they have the name "raven". I always related the original RG Legion to more Germanic leanings, only going all stealthy when they were crippled. Even so, I want Terrans, and the more native aspects would have appeared later. Also, I want something unique to my army, so simply making an army with an aesthetic that many already apply to that army would be a bit boring to me. In any case, I'll take that as a Scars vote, thanks! Yeah I really should re read the first post before replying. Besides the germanic people had load's of "tribes" Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/276921-the-raven-or-the-fox-picking-a-legion/page/2/#findComment-3395637 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durfast Spiritwolf Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 I suggest the nevermore option Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/276921-the-raven-or-the-fox-picking-a-legion/page/2/#findComment-3395657 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sevatar Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 Raven Guard. Torisian was a complete boss (in that he shoved his men out of his way to protect them , instead of shielding himself from the gunfire) Also, bright, decorated Raven Guard are always good. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/276921-the-raven-or-the-fox-picking-a-legion/page/2/#findComment-3395967 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyaenidae Posted June 17, 2013 Author Share Posted June 17, 2013 put me down for a mix vote: make one the parent army, and bring in a squad or two of the other. this way you can have your cake and eat it. WLK Alrighty then, a split vote it is, thanks. Wow, white scars are really taking the lead. Well, yeah. Imagine Touch-The-Clouds in power armour... http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/c2/Touch_the_Clouds_1877a.jpg I vote Scars but I am biased because of my Lakota Sioux ancestry. How will you play them? Rules-wise. Háu, kȟolá. A Sioux in Japan....there must be a very interesting story there, or you or your family are in the service. :) Rules-wise, I'm not entirely sure yet. I'd like to keep them on foot, and I'm building them to act as a zone mortalis / boarding action group. Basically, they are to confined spaces as the rest of the Scars Legion are to open plains: absolute murder. Coincidently, I'm making a interiour ship board for gaming as we speak... I'm an avid fan of anything RG/Corax related....but I think the White Scars idea is a better one and will look phenomenal! You seem more motivated towards it as well, so you'll enjoy it more I think. Scars it is, thanks! I would lean toward the Scars, given the choices in the OP, although both ideas are excellent. The only thing that would make me consider the Raven Guard option above the Scar option is that the RG will be getting a lot of love from the next FW HH book, Massacre, whereas we'll be waiting for ever until the Scars book comes out. Having said that, I do always feel a little sad for the Terrans, as they do often seem to get sidelined once the Primarch is found....so perhaps the Raven Guard choice is better..... Ho hum, I'm not being very helpful....so I'll say go with mainly Scars, but with a Raven Guard element of Terrans who survived the Drop Site... I can wait til book 3 or 4 anyway. The Raven Guard get more love in general, so it's alright. I suggest the nevermore option A vote for the Raven Guard. Thank you! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/276921-the-raven-or-the-fox-picking-a-legion/page/2/#findComment-3395978 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daemon2027 Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 Both ideas are good but my vote goes to the white scars. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/276921-the-raven-or-the-fox-picking-a-legion/page/2/#findComment-3396022 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lorenzo_ishivar_kain Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 Another project heathens? :) I vote for the sons of Corax... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/276921-the-raven-or-the-fox-picking-a-legion/page/2/#findComment-3396040 Share on other sites More sharing options...
b1soul Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 I am actually old enough to remember those stories coming out, lol. Agreed, though; the pairing of the two cultures never felt right, and I'm kinda glad that it quietly died out. Funny you mention shamanism, I have some great ideas for that. Vote added, and thank you. Yes, Native American Dark Angels did not mesh well with the Dark Angel's overall theme. It was more "what the fu**" than "whoah that's cool". May I suggest a Magua Khan http://fysheroes.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/magua3.jpg http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/4/47262/3114871-magua.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/276921-the-raven-or-the-fox-picking-a-legion/page/2/#findComment-3396254 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrandMagnus Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 OKay, Im starting to like your WS native american idea. But I still wont change my vote :P But Im looking forward to seeing it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/276921-the-raven-or-the-fox-picking-a-legion/page/2/#findComment-3396417 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyaenidae Posted June 18, 2013 Author Share Posted June 18, 2013 Alright, with such a strong lead, I'm going to call the vote complete, in favor of the White Scars Legion, Fox Brotherhood. The Raven Guard will make an appearance, though, alongside possibly one or two Salamanders, survivors / refugees of Istvaan. How exactly they will be used, I am unsure of yet, but they will definetly be there. I'll start hammering out a test mini over the next few days, and will start a new thread down in the WIP when he's ready. Thank you all for your help and support. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/276921-the-raven-or-the-fox-picking-a-legion/page/2/#findComment-3396592 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Ambroz Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 Just saw this heathens, I was going to vote Scars anyway. Really good idea you got in your head and I'm looking forward to seeing where you go with it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/276921-the-raven-or-the-fox-picking-a-legion/page/2/#findComment-3396701 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 For the Survivors, maybe one of the "rear echelon" units(no, not the rear echelon, just the guys who sort of play rear guard) like a tank/artillery crew(RG playing with an artillery piece would be rather unique) or maybe something like a Breacher squad to show that they might be down, but they're still more than willing to get their hands dirty. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/276921-the-raven-or-the-fox-picking-a-legion/page/2/#findComment-3396972 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grotsmasha Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 I love both ideas, but have to choose the White Scars, there just isn't enough of them about. But, why not indulge yourself? Why not have an allied force? The black and white contrast would look fantastic on the table top. Cheers, Jono Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/276921-the-raven-or-the-fox-picking-a-legion/page/2/#findComment-3400372 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NemFX Posted September 5, 2013 Share Posted September 5, 2013 Terran Raven Guard. I see it less as them being naive, and more that the cloak is there to distinguish who the commander is, since the Raven Guard tend not to show off as much. Sort of a concession on their part, pretty much the opposite of the Alpha Legion. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/276921-the-raven-or-the-fox-picking-a-legion/page/2/#findComment-3447062 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calgar 2.0 Posted September 5, 2013 Share Posted September 5, 2013 White Scars, Heathens. I like the idea, and respect it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/276921-the-raven-or-the-fox-picking-a-legion/page/2/#findComment-3447085 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted September 5, 2013 Share Posted September 5, 2013 Woe. Threadomancy. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/276921-the-raven-or-the-fox-picking-a-legion/page/2/#findComment-3447103 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calgar 2.0 Posted September 5, 2013 Share Posted September 5, 2013 I just realized after I posted. lol I thought he was starting yet another one. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/276921-the-raven-or-the-fox-picking-a-legion/page/2/#findComment-3447106 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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