Legion building

[KJB]

Ok, so I need help...

 

It's taken me almost 8 months to choose a legion to build, but I think I have finally came to a decision...

 

Blood Angels.

 

Now that nightmare is over, another begins... How to model a pre heresy legion - so I have a few questions and that's where you guys come in.

 

1. Armour marks.

Do I stick to one kind of armour across the whole force? Or do I go for multiple marks?

 

2. Sqaud armour composition

So, kind of back to question 1, do I keep each member of the squad in the same kind of armour or should mix and match types?

 

3. Bling.

Would pre heresy Blood Angels armour be as tricked out as the 40K equivalent? Or would the bling be left to the Emperor's Children?

 

4. Models.

Anything I should avoid unit wise?

 

Cheers for the help, hopefully i'll be able to get something painted this year!!

[wilks]

I'm actually in the exact same boat as yourself. I'm also wanting to build a legion too, except I am going with straight MKIV armour for everything.

 

What time period was you thinking of having your legion set at? I'm aiming for the Isstvan III massacre and was going with the still loyal marines fighting off their traitorous brethren. " For the Emperor! "

 

To try and answer some of your questions. I think the squads would have the same mark of armour, rather then be mix and matched, it just seems more like a way to upgrade armour per squad rather then individual marines randomly. Also early in the Crusade they would have Mk II and III then Mk IV a little later and during the full on heresy you could have all the MK armour marks.

 

Also I think the pre heresy blood angels would not have quite so much bling as their 40k counterparts, more likely the officers would be more decorative. However in the blood angel novel  ' Fear to Tread ' the first captain had completely plain armour with minimal decoration. i  think you can have whatever your preference though really.

 

As for units I actually have no idea whats good or bad I dont have the book betrayal yet unfortunately.

[Brother Kiruss]

Recently one of my friends started to coincided the same legion for his loyalist pre-heresy project... and he was asking very similar questions as you do... So, here are my thoughts on this matter:

 

1) I think MkII, MkIII and MkIV are all acceptable for this legion. If you are going to build a late heresy force (when BA went to defend Terra I would even include some MkVI) ...

 

2) I think it is save to assume that armor composition will be mixed in each squad... old veterans probably will be in MkII - III and officers and new recruits will be in MkIV... that being said I think that officers will have more their armor modified by artifices.

 

3) Definitely more "bling" than standard Ultrus, DG or SoH... BA a sort if a loyalist cross between WE and EC... I believe in fear to tread it is was even referenced that some BA a similar to EC in their treatment if armor/appearance...

 

4) The only unit I would avoid, if I am to build this legion, would be destroyers (the guys that use radioactive and other weapons of mass murder). I just do not see that Sanguinius being some what humanitarian by nature will employ such force...

[Kol Saresk]

1.)Personal preference. Literally. As far as I know, the Blood Angels have had access to every Mk so far, although at the Siege of Terra, I'd be iffy on Mk VI as I believe Mk V would end up being the most prevalent by that time.

 

2.)Technically, again it is personal preference but formeasemof mind, I'd go with same Mk across the squad.

 

3.)The Blood Angels also had a reputation for extravagance, but with members like Amit, I would imagine that bling isn't as necessarily as wide spread as it would be amongst the Emperor's Children. That being said, it again comes down to personally preference. You could have an army of battle worn, dusty-red Mk III Blood Angels who are battle-fatigued after Signus Prime, trudging on to fight their brothers in the Traitor Legions. Or it could be a very flashy, Mk IV-prevalent army with say the Breacher Squads in Mk III armor while the Heavy Support wears Mk II.

 

4.)There is some debate on whether or not Destroyer Marines are something the Blood Angels would use, but there's nothing saying no. I think one of the greatest strengths of the Legions is that unlike their 40k counterparts, the entire organization is not specialized in one specific form of warfare. Even the World Eaters had dedicated armor formations that were praised even by Ferrus Manus.

 

That isn't to say that each Legion didn't have some sort of signature. Quite the contrary, each Legion became known for a specific form of combat, but even Angron realized that he couldn't always rely on Perturabo to break down the fortress walls for him and even the Death Guard had artillery.

[hisdudeness]

I would use the mark that best fits the unit that already don't have models already. 

 

MKIV would be great for troops (both assault and tac).  They resemble the current BA line.  Use a different mark for HQ and SGTs if you add Artificer armor.  Adding the Command upgrades will make them look different from 40k.

 

 

Once you have a legion down, the rest is making it look good on the table. 

[DarKnight]

For most of the crusade, I'd imagine that most of the Legions would be decked in Mk III or IV varying by battlefield damage and Mechanicum resupply. Officers probably get better armor more quickly. They have a "pretty boy" reputation like the Emperor's Children, so a lot of gold trim and jewels.