Dark Bjoern Posted June 16, 2013 Share Posted June 16, 2013 Today i noticesreading through Ravenwing on p.124 that there had been mentioned two Techmarines in the black armour of the Ravenwing. I found it very curious cause the Techmarines are not part of the companies. That brings me to another interresting thought. What about the DW Land Raiders. Normally they have a Techmarine as tank commander. But TM are not Inner Circle. What if the DW encounters a Fallen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Abaqi Posted June 16, 2013 Share Posted June 16, 2013 I would suspect that those techmarines may have been inducted. Perhaps the ravenwing and deathwing have a specific pool of techmarines that they pull from the armory for their campaigns? Unless you know of a way for the other marines to keep all of those bikes/speeders/land raiders/etc... running on long campaigns, it would probably be a necessity. Just how much they know... who can say? But I would suspect that in keeping with the DA tradition, it would be as little as possible. And I would suspect that the master of the forge would probably keep an extra close eye on those to be sure that the secrets remain that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother dean Posted June 16, 2013 Share Posted June 16, 2013 Those two techies are back on the cruiser for the most part. They arent mentioned in the field. As for Land Raider crew... Neither Ken nor Frep are full tech marines and there hasnt been a definitive statement either way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan Blaire Posted June 16, 2013 Share Posted June 16, 2013 There is no Master of the Forge for the Dark Angels, only the interred Master of the Rock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommandPoint Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 Does anyone know what the emblems and colour schemes are for Techmarines in these companies? (more so Ravenwing)I've got a Tech on a bike, and I found myself wondering - what colour do I paint him!?Is he automatically a member of the Ravenwing if he is mounted on a bike?Would he become a member of the Ravenwing if he joined a squad of them?My instincs say "no" because of the whole Inner Circle side of things, but I've heard a story where there was a black Techmarine (for Ravenwing, or was it Death company??), with a red shoulder pad, to represent his "time on Mars".I did a search, and figured I'd post it here, as this thread is pretty much the topic I'm looking into :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Bjoern Posted October 30, 2013 Author Share Posted October 30, 2013 In the novel Ravenwing (p124) he TM of 2nd Co wear black armour. That sounds to me that they´re integrated. Mine will get the 2nd Co shoulder pad on the left arm and the DA TM shoulder pad from the RW sprue on it´s right arm. This shoulder pad will become red. And for the Inner Circle thing. The RW is not Inner Circle. Only Sammael is. The Black Knights knows a bit more then the common DA about the Fallen, but even they´re not Inner Circle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syphid Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 There is no Master of the Forge for the Dark Angels, only the interred Master of the Rock. In previous iterations of the DA Codex there was mention of the Master of the Forge who was the only techmarine inducted to the Inner Circle. Has this been retconned? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[TA]Typher Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 The 1st has no techmarines. Our codex says that they are viewed with distrust and suspicion as their ties to Mars is looked at as dubious. Because of this Tech-marines are never inducted into the Deathwing. C:DA pg. 26 "Master of the Rock" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syphid Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 The 1st has no techmarines. Our codex says that they are viewed with distrust and suspicion as their ties to Mars is looked at as dubious. Because of this Tech-marines are never inducted into the Deathwing. C:DA pg. 26 "Master of the Rock" Well, that's too bad. Missed opportunity for an Inner Circle Master of the Forge, imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Avoghai Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 Actually the DA Master of the Forge is the only mars adept of the chapter to be inducted in the inner circle so that's not a problem. The thing is, techmarines are not part of a specified company. They're detached from armoury in said company. So yes, techies may go alongside DW (who would take care of the most previous tanks and armours of the chapter?) but they have not DW markings. Just the green shoulder pad with the white winged sword as standard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major_Gilbear Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 Master Avoghai is correct, although I understand that even the Master of the Forge is told only the minimum he needs to know and is inducted to the Inner Circle more as an honorary gesture for receiving this knowledge. Basically, the MotF is wired into The Rock, and so he needs to know what all the systems/rooms/dungeons/ do as they fall under his (literal) control. Beyond that, I think anything else is kept from him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommandPoint Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 Thank you all for your replies so far. In the novel Ravenwing (p124) he TM of 2nd Co wear black armour. That sounds to me that they´re integrated. Mine will get the 2nd Co shoulder pad on the left arm and the DA TM shoulder pad from the RW sprue on it´s right arm. This shoulder pad will become red. I like what you've done there. I've currently got a Dark Angel shoulder pad on his left arm (one of the raised metal ones, to show he is with the DA's) and the same Tech shoulder pad from the RW sprue on his right.I may change his left shoulder pad to a normal one, so I can specifically display that he is attached to the 2nd company, hence the black colour scheme on a Tech Marine.It depends if it pops off when I try and remove it though, I only used a small bit of super glue because I was uncertain on this choice so it shouldn't be a problem :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elmo Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 In the novel Ravenwing (p124) he TM of 2nd Co wear black armour. That sounds to me that they´re integrated. Mine will get the 2nd Co shoulder pad on the left arm and the DA TM shoulder pad from the RW sprue on it´s right arm. This shoulder pad will become red. And for the Inner Circle thing. The RW is not Inner Circle. Only Sammael is. The Black Knights knows a bit more then the common DA about the Fallen, but even they´re not Inner Circle. A bit like this ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Bjoern Posted October 30, 2013 Author Share Posted October 30, 2013 Exactly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Master Belial Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 I would agree that the Techmatine's loyalty is primarily to Mars. Now the Codex has the Specialists having most of the armor one uniform color until one gets to the photo of the DW Apothecary. Then the uniform is open to interpretation and I think that is what is being done. Techmarines always fashion their own armor as well as build and maintain suits for ther brethren. Within their ranks may be Techmarines who take some artistic license and show their affinity for the company they are attached to by painting their armor as a sign of respect to that company. With the Ravenwing, the Techmarines may even be a skilled bike rider worthy of the Ravenwing. But they will always stand apart. I read the short story Battle Brothers and the Apothecary in the story wore all white armor and while attached to the Ravenwing, he was independent of the company structure. He left to complete his mission on his own when his escort was ordered to assist an attack. This can apply to the Techmarines as well but they can be all red or have colored armor to show their affinity and association with a particular company. In all, I think it will be an individual judgement call both in the fiction and on our painting tables. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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