Raensleyar Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 I have some sisters of battle models that I am not sure are viable as an army unto themselves. I was wondering whether this is something I should ally with others and if so, IG or GK? I essentially have the following, which also makes my "army list" as it were. I don't have any other SoB models nor have any plans to get any others at this stage unless absolutely necessary as asteriked in the list (hope that makes sense): Canoness armed with inferno pistol and chainsword 3 Battle sister Squads (all three identical) -9 sisters plus a superior with 1 flamer and 1 storm bolter; all three can be mounted in a rhino Retributor squad* - should I get another heavy weapon sister for this squad? - 5 sisters: 1 simulcrum imperialis, 1 heavy bolter; 1 multi melta. The retributors have an immolator in which to ride - should they bother? 2 Penitent Engines 1 exorcist Basically, I have never played SoB and want to get a sense of what to do with these models. Is this viable as is? Should I add them as allies or ally someone with them? Should the retributors be expanded at all or are they okay like that? Can I use some of the standard battle sisters as dominions or are there specific "dominion" models? I can't seem to find any that are specifically dominion. I was thinking, then, that I could create a 5 sister dominion squad, have the canoness join them and put them in the immolater. Thoughts? Thanks in advance! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/277113-building-a-list-and-allying/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Orlock Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 I think you need either three more heavy bolters or three more multimeltas to make the retributors proper like. I'd also reorganise your line squads putting two flamers in one with an APC, and getting two meltaguns for the other, and another APC. The third squad I'd divide, half to bulk up the retrubutors to soak some hits, the other half with your remaining special weapons in an IFV, probably with the Canoness. I'd align with either codex marines with a storm talon and storm raven for air cover, or Guard with a vendetta for the same. The guard also bring the blob option to tuck behind an ageis. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/277113-building-a-list-and-allying/#findComment-3398046 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vigrid Of Asgaror Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 Personally I would get three more Retributors with heavy bolters, they work really well and are quite powerful. I would put the flamer sister together with the left over multi-melta Retributor and run them in a rhino and put the storm bolter in another squad that you would use for holding an objective on your side of the field, this unit would probably be joined by your Canoness. I would put the third unit of Sisters in a rhino and have them move up with the other unit. If you want them to be more effective, you could get some special weapons, probably a heavy flamer and a flamer. (or melta if you should prefer it.) Alternatively you could reform the third unit of Sisters into a Dominion squad or two, but to make them worth while you would need to get some special weapons, usually meltaguns or flamers. I do not personally run allies but I hear that IG are good for blobs and vehicles (mainly fliers) and that they synergise well with Sisters. GK are well GKs, so yeah, lots of power armour and some terminators. I hope that helps some what. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/277113-building-a-list-and-allying/#findComment-3398097 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naminé Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 I have some sisters of battle models that I am not sure are viable as an army unto themselves. I was wondering whether this is something I should ally with others and if so, IG or GK? I essentially have the following, which also makes my "army list" as it were. I don't have any other SoB models nor have any plans to get any others at this stage unless absolutely necessary as asteriked in the list (hope that makes sense): Canoness armed with inferno pistol and chainsword 3 Battle sister Squads (all three identical) -9 sisters plus a superior with 1 flamer and 1 storm bolter; all three can be mounted in a rhino Retributor squad* - should I get another heavy weapon sister for this squad? - 5 sisters: 1 simulcrum imperialis, 1 heavy bolter; 1 multi melta. The retributors have an immolator in which to ride - should they bother? 2 Penitent Engines 1 exorcist Basically, I have never played SoB and want to get a sense of what to do with these models. Is this viable as is? Should I add them as allies or ally someone with them? Should the retributors be expanded at all or are they okay like that? Can I use some of the standard battle sisters as dominions or are there specific "dominion" models? I can't seem to find any that are specifically dominion. I was thinking, then, that I could create a 5 sister dominion squad, have the canoness join them and put them in the immolater. Thoughts? Thanks in advance! First Impressions: The Retributor squad is the major weak link here, my suggestion would be to drop them entirely until/unless you get some more Heavy Weapons. However, you can still use the models with some shuffling around... First things first, keep the Exorcist and Run the Penitent Engines seperately, which will fill out your Heavy support slots but also let the P.E's target more then one enemy unit. It also makes them slightly harder to destroy. Move the Heavy Bolter sister into a Battle sister squad, along with 2 Stormbolter models (one special weapon, one on Sister Superior). This squad will be cheap and static, with long-range dakka support for holding objectives in your Deployment zone/manning fortifications. They combine with the Exorcist for a static element to your army. Add a Rhino if you like so they can claim other objectives or redeploy if needed, but a transport isn't necessary for this squad. Cannoness, 2 Flamers, Sister superior, and 2 more bolter sisters with a simulcrum imperialis, in an Immolator with Multi-melta. These are your Dominions. They can Outflank and potentially blow up 2 tanks on the side they come in, then roast the occupants. Multi-melta and last flamer can form another Battle sister squad in a Rhino. Multi-melta's are only really useful on Sororitas command squads, but I often run them as counts-as Heavy Flamers (since they look alike, or at least can be easily converted). As a heavy flamer you then have another squad that can charge forward to burn infantry. Lastly, make another Sister squad using the remaining models, and run them in Rhino alongside everything else. Battle plan: Gunline shoots at enemy units whilst the P.E's escort the troop Rhinos. Using combined dakka and flamer, sweep one objective, leave the un-upgraded Battle Sisters to hold it, whilst the rest continues on to take the next objective. Try and coordinate your Dominions position with where you need the main force to be. Lavish extra upgrades where needed (Meltabombs will help), and consider an Aegis line to add some skyfire and protect your home units. That's about as workable as I can think of with those models :p Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/277113-building-a-list-and-allying/#findComment-3398122 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raensleyar Posted June 20, 2013 Author Share Posted June 20, 2013 Namine - Thanks! That is extremely helpful. I can now actually use my SoB rather than just having them rot in a closet. I have a tiny GK unit with Coteaz that I will ally with them. That should be sufficient for a decent force. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/277113-building-a-list-and-allying/#findComment-3398274 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naminé Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 Namine - Thanks! That is extremely helpful. I can now actually use my SoB rather than just having them rot in a closet. I have a tiny GK unit with Coteaz that I will ally with them. That should be sufficient for a decent force. Sounds good, hope you enjoy playing the Sisters :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/277113-building-a-list-and-allying/#findComment-3398405 Share on other sites More sharing options...
derpasaurus Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 I like the ideas put forth here, but given a choice between GK and IG, I would ally then with IG. Guard have more options sisters don't: blobs, long range weapons, blast templates. Ladies work well with GK too, of course, boatloads of terminators stomping around is nice to have regardless.. but I'm a fluff player and there's a lot less tension between Sororitas and Guard than Sororitas and GK. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/277113-building-a-list-and-allying/#findComment-3398746 Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Furyou Miko Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 There is no tension between Sororitas and GK, because for the most part the Sororitas don't know the GK exist until they show up. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/277113-building-a-list-and-allying/#findComment-3398767 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mith Posted June 23, 2013 Share Posted June 23, 2013 There is no tension between Sororitas and GK, because for the most part the Sororitas don't know the GK exist until they show up. Whereupon what tension manifests is rather brief, intense, and somewhat reminiscent of Silence of the Lambs. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/277113-building-a-list-and-allying/#findComment-3399584 Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Furyou Miko Posted June 23, 2013 Share Posted June 23, 2013 True, although usually if strange Marines show up and start killing, the Sororitas will kill them right back... Grey Knights, despite their fluff, are surprisingly vulnerable to good old flamer and melta blasts. :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/277113-building-a-list-and-allying/#findComment-3399725 Share on other sites More sharing options...
derpasaurus Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 There is no tension between Sororitas and GK, because for the most part the Sororitas don't know the GK exist until they show up. hah good point. I guess it's the assumption then, that since every single one of the punks is a psyker they'll just feel the unquenchable urge to burninate. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/277113-building-a-list-and-allying/#findComment-3401611 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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