GhostMalone Posted June 23, 2013 Share Posted June 23, 2013 So what's the go with it, I know of Erebus some space wolves and other word bearers being seconded to other legions (and a certain raven guard fighting alongside the night lords) but what is the case? I want to make a space wolf veteran that is part of my world eaters command squad, in world eaters livery. Basic back story he's seconded to the xiith legion due to his pshycotic aggressiveness by Russ to bridge the gap between their little tuff, come time for the heresy he's loyal to his battle brothers of the xivth company. Is this allowed or no? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/277250-legionaries-being-seconded-to-other-legions/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Eremon Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 I would consider that very unfluffy myself, especially the Wolves and Eaters. Pre-Heresy, perhaps. A Wolf Lord and Great Company accompanying a Legion acclimating to its newly found Primarch. But a single marine? Who wears the other guys' colors and sides with them? Why not just create a World Eater of Fenrisian-like temperament and say he's mocked as the Wolf? As for forwarding Legionaries, there appear to be three kinds. Auxiliaries aiding in the building of such in other Legions, such as the Word Bearers and their Chaplains and the Thousand Sons and their Librarians. Loyal forces watching over suspicious ones, such as the Space Wolves (to wildly different and polarizing reactions among readers) or the Custodians. Training or recovering forces, such as with newly found Primarchs like with Lorgar and Magnus, Fulgrim and Horus and Alpharius and Horus. Edit: the Wolf, who is eventually called Wolf Eater due to actions at the Night of the Wolf, where the mocks become begrudging respect Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/277250-legionaries-being-seconded-to-other-legions/#findComment-3399889 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vazzy Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 I know my Ultramarines have a small contignent of Iron Warrior among their ranks, who are betrayed with them at Calth. My reasoning is: 1. I'm tired of painting Royal Blue and Gold 2. On the way to Calth the 129 relieves the beleagured 21st company who are down to five terminators, Their Siegebreaker/warsmith, 20 breacher marines in a Vindicator. So they are with the 129th when the Word Bearers attack Though I don't think a wolf in Eaters colors makes any sense. No offense intended though Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/277250-legionaries-being-seconded-to-other-legions/#findComment-3399896 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostMalone Posted June 24, 2013 Author Share Posted June 24, 2013 I was thinking though that it would be possible for a single wolf to turn with the company, and I like the wolf eater idea! So ima guess no on the fluff. How about a world eater seconded to the wolves then returned with wolf like appearance and weaponry? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/277250-legionaries-being-seconded-to-other-legions/#findComment-3399917 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostMalone Posted June 24, 2013 Author Share Posted June 24, 2013 Just had a thought on the wolf, if a raven guard wether he is prisoner or not fights alongside night lords, especially Sevatar and we've seen that white scars even turned traitor, I think there should be a chance on a wolf turning, and didn't a entire space wolves successor chapter turn to khorne? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/277250-legionaries-being-seconded-to-other-legions/#findComment-3399925 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyaenidae Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 Keep the Wolf idea. It's solid, but it just needs to be explained very carefully... ======================================================================================================================== Darkness. The smell of hot breath and old blood, not his but still familiar. A rattle of chains. Darkness, again. Vjanik tried to keep his eyes shut, but the images, nay memories, that rolled in his mind were of far less comfort than the reality before him. A harsh voice, from the throat of a man who spent his whole life screaming in rage, filled his ears, "You're awake. What do you remember, little lost Wolf?" He didn't want to speak to the bastard, but he felt compelled to voice his sins, to lift the weight of the horror from his spirit. Broken, scabbed lips parted from fangs as he raised his voice. "I... I remember breaking from the void. Our scout vessel was cast from the Soul-Ocean by a great riptide, so powerful that to remain would have meant death. I remember our auspexes screaming, ships of the XII falling upon us. Boarding pods broke the skin of our ship, and I and my kin rushed to halt the tide. After that..." Vjanik clenched his eyes shut again, a low growl of a pained animal emanating from him. A snort from the harsh voiced one. "Having trouble retelling the tale? I was there, I could tell you..." Vjanik interrupted him as he snapped forward, held from the blue and marble traitor's throat by the chains around his arms. "Lydløs! You cannot understand, you are not Volk!" Vjanik fell back against the bloodstained wall again, his breathing becoming deeper and panicked with every second, a sub-sonic whine behind it all. His golden eyes turned up to look at his gaoler. Cast in the heraldry of the XII, the Eater of Worlds before him was not smiling or laughing at his misery. Instead, behind the tic-tic-tic of the Nails vomiting pure pain into his skull, Vjanik saw something far worse in his eyes. Compassion. Understanding. Respect. "Oh, I understand, and I'll never forget. The violence of the boarding action woke up the wolf in you; the real wolf. Not the demure creature your kind pretends to emulate, but the wild animal that is completely free. You tasted blood, and you were liberated. Not just my brothers died at your hands, but every one..." Vjanik thrashed against his bindings, doing anything to keep the words from reaching his ears, making as much noise as possible. It failed to help. ".... of your own kind. You slaughtered your kin, and ate their flesh, and howled with freedom, and only stopped when my men beat the consciousness from you. A dozen of my men died to preserve you from yourself." The son of Angron crouched down and looked Vjanik in the eyes. "You lost your mind. And you loved every second of it. We, cousin, are more alike than you realize." Vjanik's face curled in misery and hatred of self, trying to look away. "No," a denial in the face of truth, a truth that he could still taste between his fangs. "I could never...I wouldn't..." The XII legion warrior placed his hand against his head, clenching his hair and forcing him to look. Not at him again, but at the grey-clad forms behind him, piled like cordwood. Vjanik looked straight into the lifeless eye of his beloved Jarl, the other eye lost along with half of his head, bitten away. Claw marks and toothed gouges covered the other bodies and their warplate. Cold blood still fell in coagulated clumps from massive wounds. Vjanik howled in sorrow, the sound filling the holding bay with misery. Harsh-Voice spoke again. "You are cast out, orphan of Fenris. You are an oathbreaker. You are a kin-slayer. You are heart-sworn to Hróðvitnir, in your kind's tongue. You are an Eater of the Dead." A roar of a chainblade, a spark of hope that Harsh-Voice would end his torment. Instead, the chains holding Vjanik's arms fell away, cut in a hail of embers and metal fragments. The chainsword fell before him, teeth still smoking. "And you are a brother to the XII. Listen to the bloody howl in your heart, spit on you misery, twist your pain until it is a weapon, and make your choice, cousin." Harsh-Voice stood before him again, staring, the muscles in his face silent for the moment. Vjanik reached down for the chainsword, and came to his feet armed. Dried blood flaked from his brow as he ran fingers through ratted hair, drawing it away from his eyes. Harsh-Voice still stood there, looking back at a kindred soul. "Make your choice, Gore-Wolf. I have a war to get back into." Gripping the chainblade tighter, Vjanik made his choice. The mad wolf in his heart howled with glee. Freedom. =================================================================================== .... or something like that. I'm tired, lol. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/277250-legionaries-being-seconded-to-other-legions/#findComment-3399973 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostMalone Posted June 24, 2013 Author Share Posted June 24, 2013 :cussing amazing. That pretty much sums up what I was thinking Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/277250-legionaries-being-seconded-to-other-legions/#findComment-3399976 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyaenidae Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 Good. Glad you liked it. Crap. Now I have an urge to paint Vjanik, lol. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/277250-legionaries-being-seconded-to-other-legions/#findComment-3399978 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostMalone Posted June 24, 2013 Author Share Posted June 24, 2013 Well I think he will be sculpted pretty quickly, And Heathens that backstory was superb. I think it works perfectly rather than allying a unit gave a single model in the squad Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/277250-legionaries-being-seconded-to-other-legions/#findComment-3399980 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Eremon Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 Aye, the idea that it was a Wolf who gave in to his beast and captured by the XII following his berserker slaughter of his own side sounds much better than a forwarded Legionary. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/277250-legionaries-being-seconded-to-other-legions/#findComment-3399984 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostMalone Posted June 24, 2013 Author Share Posted June 24, 2013 @Heathens - is it okay if I use your fluff to craft this wonderful model? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/277250-legionaries-being-seconded-to-other-legions/#findComment-3399985 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyaenidae Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 That's why I made it, lol. Enjoy, brother. I might make my own version, though. Hope you don't mind. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/277250-legionaries-being-seconded-to-other-legions/#findComment-3399988 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostMalone Posted June 24, 2013 Author Share Posted June 24, 2013 That's cool as, just ordered bitz for him so hopefully he will be up in my WIP thread sometime by the end of the week Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/277250-legionaries-being-seconded-to-other-legions/#findComment-3399991 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rune Priest Ridcully Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 I was thinking about this whilst reading Angel exterminatus, but other then just painting a couple of squads in different colors, is there any way to reflect the hotch potch many of the survivors from the massacre were,being a mix of the loyalist legions. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/277250-legionaries-being-seconded-to-other-legions/#findComment-3400044 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight of the Raven Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 Isn't Angron particularly uncompromising about the loyalty of his troops? I gleaned as much from this board. If that's true, I don't see him accepting a marine who picked up some warrior customs from another legion. He takes loyalty to the emperor above (or even as well as) loyalty to him as a personal insult, just imagine how he feels about one of his own looking like he might possibly consider what another primarch may perhaps think or believe at some point of his life. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/277250-legionaries-being-seconded-to-other-legions/#findComment-3400144 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuskRaider Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 Let's not forget the fact that the two Legions are pretty bitter enemies before the Heresy ala 'Night of the Wolf'... Angron wouldn't allow any Wolves in the Legion, even if it was decreed by the Emperor himself. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/277250-legionaries-being-seconded-to-other-legions/#findComment-3400223 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyaenidae Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 Have either of y'all read Betrayer yet? Trust me, Angron reeeealy doesn't give a crap. Especially now. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/277250-legionaries-being-seconded-to-other-legions/#findComment-3400292 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostMalone Posted June 24, 2013 Author Share Posted June 24, 2013 And I don't think he'd even notice unless he went up to said legionary and went; yo space wolf what you be doing here? -snaps over knee- that's better... And current day world eaters have a hard time recruiting so usually abduct new recruits and torture them into service. But back on topic I think it would be feasible we've seen that the bonds of brotherhood can stretch even past loyalty to your Primarch or even emperor. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/277250-legionaries-being-seconded-to-other-legions/#findComment-3400422 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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